Sebastian Giovinco (55 Viewers)

Would you bring Giovinco back next season?

  • Yeah, we could use him

  • Nope, get rid of him


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Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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I am so happy about Giovinco and sad at the same moment because he didnt make it here. I get it why, italy has always been known to be a country of Matuidis rather than Verattis. And itbis still the case today. An italian team would rather buy a Witsel/Matuidi than a Modric/Veratti because "they lack physical presence in midfield", a phrase which i never understood and probably never will.
Sorry, but that's just pure BS.

- Witsel is not that well known for his physical presence, completely different player than Matuidi.
- A player who's physically very similar to Giovinco but simply better is a star player for one of Italy's best clubs - Insigne.
- I don't even know where you're getting that "Italian teams only care about physical presence" idea from, that's not a common stereotype at all. And for good reason, Italy is the only country where you got people like freaking Aquilani & Montolivo being mainstays, not to mention guys like Cassano, Totti, Gilardino,....

Seriously, if anything, the complete opposite of your post is true.
 

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Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
61,486
No one would rather buy a Witsel/Matuidi than a Modric/Verratti, another pointless exaggeration.
More so because one of Italys issues is the fact they are physically and tempo wise behind rest of bigger European leagues. So it's weird notion to say Italy puts that before the rest? It's litterally their weakness, most coaches say it, Conte, Sacchi, Mourinho, Ancelotti etc. And it's noticeable for Europe games.

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More so because one of Italys issues is the fact they are physically and tempo wise behind rest of bigger European leagues. So it's weird notion to say Italy puts that before the rest? It's litterally their weakness, most coaches say it, Conte, Sacchi, Mourinho, Ancelotti etc. And it's noticeable for Europe games.

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True. Tactical nous and some technical ability are usually what Serie A coaches look in their players. Pace and physique is usually secondary thus many coaches prefer the older players.

There is slight change happening I think though. Teams are trying to instill some pressing nowadays rather than just sitting deep all the time.
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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More so because one of Italys issues is the fact they are physically and tempo wise behind rest of bigger European leagues. So it's weird notion to say Italy puts that before the rest? It's litterally their weakness, most coaches say it, Conte, Sacchi, Mourinho, Ancelotti etc. And it's noticeable for Europe games.

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That was true a couple years ago, now Serie A has a much higher tempo, and is comparable to other leagues in that aspect. Have a look at matches before 2010, it's completely different.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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That was true a couple years ago, now Serie A has a much higher tempo, and is comparable to other leagues in that aspect. Have a look at matches before 2010, it's completely different.
They have improved, but not there yet.

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Juve_fanatic

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Apr 5, 2006
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Sorry, but that's just pure BS.

- Witsel is not that well known for his physical presence, completely different player than Matuidi.
- A player who's physically very similar to Giovinco but simply better is a star player for one of Italy's best clubs - Insigne.
- I don't even know where you're getting that "Italian teams only care about physical presence" idea from, that's not a common stereotype at all. And for good reason, Italy is the only country where you got people like freaking Aquilani & Montolivo being mainstays, not to mention guys like Cassano, Totti, Gilardino,....

Seriously, if anything, the complete opposite of your post is true.
I dont agree.....there may be a sligt tone of exaggeration, but i stand firmly on what i have said.
 

italiacalcio10

Senior Member
Mar 3, 2014
3,866
Sorry, but that's just pure BS.

- Witsel is not that well known for his physical presence, completely different player than Matuidi.
- A player who's physically very similar to Giovinco but simply better is a star player for one of Italy's best clubs - Insigne.
- I don't even know where you're getting that "Italian teams only care about physical presence" idea from, that's not a common stereotype at all. And for good reason, Italy is the only country where you got people like freaking Aquilani & Montolivo being mainstays, not to mention guys like Cassano, Totti, Gilardino,....

Seriously, if anything, the complete opposite of your post is true.
Insigne and Giovinco are similar in someways, but still very different players. Giovinco is more of an out an out and out striker, which is the main reason why Italian teams don't gravitate towards him. Italians teams love traditional centre forwards, and Giovinco is best when he leads the line, but he has the build of a support striker. Insigne is much more comfortable in deeper roles, which makes him easier to slot in. Insigne can play TQ comfortably, but Giovinco cannot very effectively.

That being Insigne couldn't really find a spot on Conte's Italy, like Giovinco had trouble on Conte's Juventus.

I personally don't think Giovinco's issue had anything to do with a Serie A problem but more a Juventus problem. Giovinco didn't fit well on a Conte squad because Giovinco likes 1) playing front to goal, 2) taking on players 1x1, 3)having tactical freedom. He likely could have found a role on other teams. And by the time Allegri took over, Giovinco was already disenchanted playing behind Tevez.

Conte is a good manager, but he doesn't like soft players or players who do not fit into his tactical set up - like Fabregas, or at minimum, he likes to minimize the softness. Really the only soft player on the team right now is Hazard.
 

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