I did now, got someone to translate for me, very interesting...
Journalist of La Repubblica : Hristian?
Hiliesky: what is this? My friend, what is this?
J: what is happening?
Hiliesky: I don't know this man
J: I don't understand..
Hiliesky: In the text, in your text.. you write about the game Palermo – Bari.. when I met the players of Palermo …. I called my friend DAN
Giornalista: Eh..?
Hiliesky: And I told you that I don't know this man! How could you write this? Bro, were you on cocaine or wine? How culd you write these bad things?
Giornalista: (inc)
Hiliesky: Now I call Gazzetta and tell them you are a on cocaine and you are crazy and you wrote stupid things..how could you write this?
Giornalista: this is what you said, do you know..?
Hiliesky: Bro, we talked, we joked! I said..
Giornalista: Listen!
Hiliesky: Why didn't you write about … (inc) you wrote about the bodyguards, about the guns…..the tattoos.. what is it? …This is not friendly!…
Giornalista: Listen, talking about (inc)everything.. What I want is..
Hiliesky: You told me you wanted to write a book!…
Giornalista: Yes, it's true, it's true! We have talked now to the lawyer of ZAMPERINI and everything is all right….
Hiliesky: And why SCULLI? maybe this man is not SCULLI.. why are you doing this to SCULLI? Perhaps it is not SCULLI; perhaps it's TOTTI.. (inc)
Giornalista: (inc) because the article has been written by a journalist, not by a policeman! So it's the same! If you watch Sky now, they are not talking about SCULLI, but about mafia; they aren't talking about you or SCULLI!
Ok, Hristian? No one is angry now! We have talked to the lawyer of
ZAMPERINI and he said you are the greatest, so you know.. ok? No one wants to cheat you, neither me, nor Giuliano, nor the lawyer of ZAMPERINI, no one! Ok?
Hiliesky: ok, but this story (inc), I got this money! (inc) I told you we bet 20 – 30,000 every time and you wrote 'much money'
Why (inc) much money?
Giornalista: Hristian, i don't know what they told you, but if you read the article you will realize that there is written that you are not a member of mafia, nor a chief, just that you are a person who bets, ok? Nothing more! Nothing more!
Hiliesky: in your article you wrote about my tattoos.. you talked about
Kosovo.. I have never been in Kosovo! This is Macedonia, not Kosovo!
Giornalista: yeah, I know, it's a mistake! (inc)
Hiliesky: Yeah, but this mistake is too much! You said the people of this town have too much money.. my car is a BMW.. perhaps the magistrates read this article and say “Ah, he drives a BMW! Let's assrape him".. I have the bodyguard, I'm called "chief"
Giornalista: i could not guess people in Macedonia read La
Repubblica! unbelievable, isn't it?… If you watch TV now, they talk about mafia, not about you! It's everything about the sytem, everything about the mafia and.... not about you!
If you watch Sky, now.. call everyone..
Hiliesky: Now? On Sky?
Giornalista: Yes, but they don't talk abou you, they don't talk about you!! They talk about mafia and if …..
Hiliesky: Sky?
Giornalista: Sky, sky.. if you watch the news of Sky they talk about
mafia and..
Hiliesky: (inc) You must change some situations..
Giornalista: No problem. We will write what you like, but you must trust me! We are friends and we don't want to cheat each other! Ok?
Hiliesky: I saw you wrote about SCULLI.. why didn't you write about TOTTI? Or DEL PIERO?..
Giornalista: Listen! (inc) These are corrections and people understand very well what they are, ok?
Hiliesky: printed in Italy.. how does it work? (inc)…If I know these infos, then I play.. SCULLI plays for Genoa and Lazio.. but perhaps he is not this man..
Giornalista: Listen! This is exactly what we will write! Ok? These are assumptions, but nothing more than that.. And we will write exactly this! Trust me, no one wants to screw you, no one cheated you, in any way! I told you I talked to the lawyer of ZAMPERINI; when you called me I was talking to the lawyer of ZAMPERINI, ok? And he was happy; he said you are the greatest.. Ok?
Hiliesky: Ok i'm not great; I'm just honest and you can come here, as my guest and now, tonight, if you can, see if there is a chance to change this situation!
Giornalista: No problem. i will call you in the afternoon, when I will be
Hiliesky: Ok, tonight, at 9 – 10, I want to talk to you on Skype..
Giornalista: I prefe before 9, because 9 is too late for the newspaper and we don't…..
Hiliesky: Ok..
Giornalista: At 7.. Ciao!
Hiliesky: Ok.. Ciao!
2nd call
[….]Hiliesky: ok, ok, ok.. This, in the first part of the article.. I know 30 players, I talked about the game with 30 players.. what does it mean?
before…., in the article.. the title of the article.. “Three arranged games..”
Giornalista: Yes.. You told me “I know many among them.. 30..”
Hiliesky: I know, I know.. (laughs)
Giornalista: but you don't know their names..
Hiliesky: I know, but how much do I know them? I talked to someone somewhere, in some discos.. This doesn't mean that I know! two among them bet But someone bet for 5 – 6 (inc) perhaps it's true, perhaps it's false! Perhaps GERVASONI bet alone, but he did it for 5-6 players and each one paid 40,000, perhaps he bet alone! See, this s what is bad in this game! You have to explain it! I know (inc), I know
GERVASONI, I met MASIELLO once.. I told you I met BELLAVISTA,
BRESSAN.. You know, you didn't write anything about Mauro BRESSAN and BELLAVISTA and you write for SCULLI..
Giornalista: Ok, it's because, you know, I don't want to write too much
Hiliesky: Ok, but why don't you write about BRESSAN or BELLAVISTA? Why?