Scommessopoli : 2009-2010 betting Scandal in Italy (yes, this again :sergio:) (9 Viewers)

Do you think Conte is guilty of knowing about match-fixing and not reporting it?

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Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
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This is a police investigation, do people understand that? It's a police investigation, and is being stirred up by the anti-Juve media.
Come on, Jay. Get with the program!

Fuck FIGC!
They're out to get us again!
Another conspiracy, probably orchestrated by the Moratti and or Berlu!
We should go play in a different league!
Call our players back from the NT!
:cry:
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
22,870
Come on, Jay. Get with the program!

$#@! FIGC!
They're out to get us again!
Another conspiracy, probably orchestrated by the Moratti and or Berlu!
We should go play in a different league!
Call our players back from the NT!
:cry:
Hold your horses, though. The Berlusconi media machine is definitely involved, regardless of this being a police investigation. Berlu's newspapers and tv stations have been throwing dirt on Conte and Juventus for months, and currently it's a sh*tstorm.

Apart from that .... do carry on :)
 

enzo

Senior Member
May 14, 2012
2,976
This is a police investigation, do people understand that? It's a police investigation, and is being stirred up by the anti-Juve media.
Okay, I get your point and I agree that a police investigation is something different. But if there is no political motivation behind it, why wasn't Conte summoned before? Why did they search his house with a warrant, many weeks after the accusations against him have been made public? Nor does it explain why they raid the training camp of the *whole* national team. Even if the FIGC is not involved, because the police expects someone to blab, why would they expect evidence at the camp? This is ridicolous.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,350
Okay, I get your point and I agree that a police investigation is something different. But if there is no political motivation behind it, why wasn't Conte summoned before? Why did they search his house with a warrant, many weeks after the accusations against him have been made public? Nor does it explain why they raid the training camp of the *whole* national team. Even if the FIGC is not involved, because the police expects someone to blab, why would they expect evidence at the camp? This is ridicolous.
There is political motivation behind it. In lots of ways. One of the ways is that people only believe the justice system is doing something, when you houses are being searched and people are being arrested. This dynamic is even more important in Italy than other countries. The justice system itself is also a political actor, let's not forget that. Although most European countries adhere to the trias politica principle, the three branches will always affect each other.

The timing and the people involved make it even more political. Why Conte? Why a man who has basically WON everything? It doesn't make sense. Not only does a winner not like to lose, he also, by winning, proves that he does his job, which is trying to win. Furthermore Conte is a coach. If a coach tries to cheat, information will be leaked within seconds. Everyone knows this. And even it wouldn't, for a scam to work, the players would have to agree. It is far more easier to approach an individual player to make a mistake. And last but not least, if you can bet on a player getting sent off or receiving a yellow card or a team conceding a penalty.. Why fix games? Suspicious results are risky. But a naive foul in the box?

So you see, lots of things don't add up here.
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
22,870
I agree, Seven. The whole thing is fishy.

Theory: Angry at Juve's revival and at losing out on the title, Berlusconi, knowing that an investigation was underway, payed Carobbio to throw dirt on Conte in the media (Berlu's media), in order to ruin Juve's mercato and create a possibility that Conte would be banned from calcio.

It's a bit far out, but would you be surprised?

Carobbio is the only one who has dirt on Conte. None of Carobbio's teammates at Siena agree with him. Couldn't that suggest that someone got to Carobbio and payed him off?
 

enzo

Senior Member
May 14, 2012
2,976
There is political motivation behind it. In lots of ways. One of the ways is that people only believe the justice system is doing something, when you houses are being searched and people are being arrested. This dynamic is even more important in Italy than other countries. The justice system itself is also a political actor, let's not forget that. Although most European countries adhere to the trias politica principle, the three branches will always affect each other.
You hit the nail right on its head. I absolutely forgot about this and absolutely agree with you. Declan Hill also describes this very detailed in his book "The Fix".
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
75,030
Okay, I get your point and I agree that a police investigation is something different. But if there is no political motivation behind it, why wasn't Conte summoned before? Why did they search his house with a warrant, many weeks after the accusations against him have been made public? Nor does it explain why they raid the training camp of the *whole* national team. Even if the FIGC is not involved, because the police expects someone to blab, why would they expect evidence at the camp? This is ridicolous.
Police procedure. What would have happened if they had done it during the title run in? Bigger controversy, more conspiracy theories. But really they just do it when it suits their investigation.

This is a real match-fixing scandal with proof, so anyone who has been named by individuals arrested will be searched. Whether there is legitimacy to the claims is another matter, but the police are all over everything.

That the media are using it as a means to destabilise Juve is another thing.
 

DIECI

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
2,115
Monte that idiot is now suggesting that Serie A and probably B and the whole sport have a 2 to 3 year stop because of all this.
Is this guy insane? How much ecomomic impact would something like this create? Not to mention the fact that all players will probably
look to void their contracts with their current teams to go play elsewhere and then what? in 2, 3 years we will have a league of brand new teams and players? Insanity! They better shoot his dumb idea down asap!
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
75,030
Heard all this crap during Calciopoli. Money talks and that is the end of the discussion.

I'm sure Monti has enough bullshit to deal with.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
The Italian PM thinks the league should be suspended for 2-3 years. :lol:

Instead of punishing those involved, lets just punish everyone instead.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,350
Police procedure. What would have happened if they had done it during the title run in? Bigger controversy, more conspiracy theories. But really they just do it when it suits their investigation.

This is a real match-fixing scandal with proof, so anyone who has been named by individuals arrested will be searched. Whether there is legitimacy to the claims is another matter, but the police are all over everything.

That the media are using it as a means to destabilise Juve is another thing.
Your belief in the police is astonishing. They are a political force. Do you know how the police works? How a prosecution evolves?
 

Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
17,806
Honestly if the PM of Italy has such a $#@! mentality, how can he Ever fix their economy !!

the whole country (from governments to media) are a big joke.
Well.. yeah, it's a third world country. :D

Nah, I'm fearing this whole situation is getting out of hand and it will damage us extremely. Just want it to be over asap but thinking this will play during the entire summer. :scared:
 

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