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[nedved34]

You want an idea?
wait and see what will happen.If Martin doesn't sell the site,then move to another forum,someone out there create a forum,and tell each member to move to that site in case the site is closed.
I know Martin may not like this Idea,I have much respect for him for giving us this wonderfull forum,but if he is asking thousands of dollars (which worths because of his work in those years),but nobody is paying that,then that's the only soultion,but I hope someone as good as Martin (at least) buys the forum,and everybody will be happy

 

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[JCK]

The money issue can be solved by opening a paypal account for the site where the fees for hosting and all the other bill can be paid from that account.

This also solves the problem of donations and/or subscriptions by sending money to that paypal account.

 

[Respaul]

++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
Put some ideas out there, dont make them think of everything.

Jae...

Its easy to give ideas / advice if someone lays out at least a brief... But theyve just said they want donations and no more.

If they lay out...

Whos gonna run the site
Whos gonna run the forum
Whos gonna do the technical side

What if any changes they have in mind
How are they gonna raise funds to keep it running... more donations? adverts? What type of adverts?

How is this money paid...
What do the people who donate get out of it...

etc etc etc

At the moment they are jus saying they want money... whos gonna give money without at least some kind of plan and gaurantees

Even then... they are saying to ask for something... So someone says right now.. I'll give you $100 for someones photo... how are they gonna get that person to agree to give what the donater wants?

A little bit of thought is needed...

Why give to save the site if its only gonna keep it up for a few extra weeks... Whats the point.

Plus... as i said before... Martin did ask for some kind of plan... So if he is a man of his word... Why should he take the money off the members even if they have it without a plan... when he knows that it would be likely to fail and waste the time he has put in over the years

With an outline that gives just a bit of confidence i would have thought quite a few of the members would be willing to help out...

Jus my tuppence worth

 

[Respaul]

++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++
The money issue can be solved by opening a paypal account for the site where the fees for hosting and all the other bill can be paid from that account.

This also solves the problem of donations and/or subscriptions by sending money to that paypal account.

Paypal is of course the most logical way to pass funds...

But again this lends the question of.. who is opening and controlling that account...

Who are people trusting with their money...
Is there provision for everyone to monitor exactly how much is going in... or are we jus to blindly have faith in the good nature of what is in reality a couple of strangers

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++


Paypal is of course the most logical way to pass funds...

But again this lends the question of.. who is opening and controlling that account...

Who are people trusting with their money...
Is there provision for everyone to monitor exactly how much is going in... or are we jus to blindly have faith in the good nature of what is in reality a couple of strangers

You are absolutely right, in this point and the one before.

What I said is the mothod of payment, paypal is the most logical.

What I think is, there should be a group of people like a board who manage the money and these same people should be responsible for technical issues and whatever else is needed. Who are these? How will they achieve it? This I don't know.

 

[nedved34]

I agree with everything you said Paul,I think that plan won't work, since we can't trust people online,I mean nobody knows each others (very few).
anyway what you think of what I wrote?isn't that the most logical?

 

[Respaul]

Its what will probably happen snoop.

If someone outside of this forum buys it.. then they will have their own ideas and as such the place will change and many will make a move anyway... where as someone from within.. allthough may make some changes will know how this place works and it should be fairly painless... But i dont know if that will happen.

So this forum if it continues will probably lose alot of members.

If people go elsewhere.. they will be selective in where they go and who they take with them.. so again this community dies

Personally i think this place is dead unless either one person from within buys it on their own... or a group from within with a definate plan buy it...

If someone outside buys it or if people migrate to another forum then i think its finnished


Which is why someone needs to come up with details... names, roles etc etc... Not just a call for donations

 

[Bjerknes]

I don't think many here know what they'd be getting into.

 

[Hydde]

++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
Its what will probably happen snoop.

If someone outside of this forum buys it.. then they will have their own ideas and as such the place will change and many will make a move anyway... where as someone from within.. allthough may make some changes will know how this place works and it should be fairly painless... But i dont know if that will happen.

So this forum if it continues will probably lose alot of members.

If people go elsewhere.. they will be selective in where they go and who they take with them.. so again this community dies

Personally i think this place is dead unless either one person from within buys it on their own... or a group from within with a definate plan buy it...

If someone outside buys it or if people migrate to another forum then i think its finnished


Which is why someone needs to come up with details... names, roles etc etc... Not just a call for donations

simply the truthh

 

[nedved34]

++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
Its what will probably happen snoop.

If someone outside of this forum buys it.. then they will have their own ideas and as such the place will change and many will make a move anyway... where as someone from within.. allthough may make some changes will know how this place works and it should be fairly painless... But i dont know if that will happen.

So this forum if it continues will probably lose alot of members.

If people go elsewhere.. they will be selective in where they go and who they take with them.. so again this community dies

Personally i think this place is dead unless either one person from within buys it on their own... or a group from within with a definate plan buy it...

If someone outside buys it or if people migrate to another forum then i think its finnished


Which is why someone needs to come up with details... names, roles etc etc... Not just a call for donations

it's sure if someone from here buys,then it would be the best,but the problem is very few would pay thousands for the site,maybe none if that's the price, and even if someone have that money,he may not be a "good" manager , maybe he can't manage the site,so the probability is very low..

If Martin leaves, defenitly the site will not be like it used to be,will turn to mess, unless a "beloved" member by all of the other members buys the site.

Moving to another site,with different adress,with all the members without exceptions would be ok IMO,if that "beloved" member runs as a president..

I wish if Martin can change his mind,maybe we should convince Martin to change his mind,maybe we should pay and ask him to continue to run the site if that's needed,but I am not sure if he will accept that,as he told us the reason is because of he is tired of running it..

 

[Ramin]

++ [ originally posted by snoop ] ++

Moving to another site,with different adress,with all the members without exceptions would be ok IMO,if that "beloved" member runs as a president..

That wouldn't be a bad idea. Much better than what Dan suggested with bunch of members donating and all. This wouldn't work as its too complicated.

I just wish that when this site closes down, we wouldn't have to move to Xtratime to talk about Juve.

 

[arc]

just wanna know how this donation works, im willin to pay for the fun time here, i love yall

 

[Daddi]

how about: You must have donated like 10€ to have access for the media session? I would pay that

 

[Azzurri7]

I don't feel like PM to anyone, tell me how much it cost and when can i send the money.

I fvcking adore this site.

 

[arc]

++ [ originally posted by David Del Piero ] ++
how about: You must have donated like 10€ to have access for the media session? I would pay that

aye, we can create a vip group which has speical access to some section

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++
I don't feel like PM to anyone, tell me how much it cost and when can i send the money.

I fvcking adore this site.

Do you have a couple thousand to buy this site Rab?

 

[Henry]

I could give something in september, but not before then
we do need a plan though. a good buyer, figure out a new server, etc. It would really, really suck to lose this site

 

[IncuboRossonero]

I was seriously considering purchasing the site from Martin and keep it running as is with the occasional AD to pay for the server fees, etc.
In the end, price was not the issue but it was the maintenance..I know nothing about running the site nor do I have the patience to learn.

At this rate, if its SELL or shut down....I think its inevitable...the place will shut down.

 

[gray]

Nick, would you be opposed to paying for the site's operation if you could hand the keys over to someone else to keep the machine oiled?

(that's not me volunteering btw)

Or would you need to 'feel the power' so to speak, if you were financing the whole operation?

As long as you don't ban every member who looks at you funny and don't change the forum's colours to black and red, I wouldn't be opposed to you being the man at the helm

 

[gray]

As for the original idea, I think it's a creative one, but not all that practical. While it'd be great to have people donating money to keep the forums afloat, a few problems could arise:

1) People who contribute more money would likely want more of a say in how the site is run, and arguments would no doubt erupt.

2) I'm not too convinced that such a scheme is financially viable in the long-run. I hate to be nothing but a critic, but the idea kind of sounds like having a topless car wash event to keep Enron afloat.

It would probably work at the start and generate enough cash to keep the site running for a certain amount of time, but it's always preferable to have a steady and secure source (a sugar-daddy Milanista would fit the bill decently)

3) Trust and integrity. We're only human.


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