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denco

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Nasri, yes, what a greta prospect he is and certainly the next French superstar as he is that good. Barcelona have a wonderkid as well called Bojan Krikic that is also destined for stardom. He is exactly like Messi. i don't know how barcelona do it and we cannot.

I have never been that impressed with RVDV as every time I have seen play for Holland, he has disappointed me.

He seems to be doing great at hamburg and I know he has talent but like D'Alessandro at Zaragossa, i don't think it is that much and effective.
 

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FlavioJuve

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Nasri, yes, what a greta prospect he is and certainly the next French superstar as he is that good. Barcelona have a wonderkid as well called Bojan Krikic that is also destined for stardom. He is exactly like Messi. i don't know how barcelona do it and we cannot.

I have never been that impressed with RVDV as every time I have seen play for Holland, he has disappointed me.

He seems to be doing great at hamburg and I know he has talent but like D'Alessandro at Zaragossa, i don't think it is that much and effective.
The fact that VDV did never really impress for holland the last 2 years is because, he has to play on a position he's not familiar with. At Hamburg he does this well because he can play behind the strikers as he wants and the rest of the team is build around him.
 

denco

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The fact that VDV did never really impress for holland the last 2 years is because, he has to play on a position he's not familiar with. At Hamburg he does this well because he can play behind the strikers as he wants and the rest of the team is build around him.
Okay, even if what you are saying is true, is he good enough for a team of Juve's stature to build a team around his dubious talents? The answer for me is a resounding no.

Granted I have not seen him week in week out but even in Champions league, I never see him shine. At Ajax where he was menat to be boy wonder, he did not really do much but i gather he had other problems towards the end of his tenure.

I do not know what you mean by playing in a position he is not familiar with but playing behind 2 strikers is not something he is good at if I am going to look at him on face value.

He fails way short of that, he is not a Riquelme, Totti, Deco, Fabregas, xavi, zizou and players like that where the ball should always pass through them. i doubt if he has Pirlo's passing ability either.

Anyways I don't wanna be too harsh cos I have not seen him as much as you have, so you should be in a better position to judge his skills but I cannot see any great team revolving around him, a mid-table team, yes but a Cl team? No way.
 

FlavioJuve

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I don't think we should serround the team around him either, but if we are to get him it should be for the position behind the strikers. He may not have a flair like Riquelme or the others you mentioned, be he's really creative and his passing skills are excellent.
I'm confident that he would also be great in a CL team, that's why even Real was interested in him.
 

Jun-hide

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Dec 16, 2002
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denco,

I pretty much agree with you on the assessment of VDV. In sheer talent terms, he is clearly inferior to Nasri or for that matter Quaresma IMO. As you have said, I get the impression when seeing him play that he doesnt "feel" the flow of the game in a true trequarsista style of Veron, Rui Costa, Zizou or even Totti. In my humble opinion, based on selected matches on CL and International games, Van der Vaart is segunda punta, who are better off playing up in the field. Van der Vaart has pretty nice 10 in 40 at International Level, which is hardly Vieri-esque, but very good nonetheless. His goal ratio didnt suffer when he moved to Germany, in contrast to what one would expect (Sateeh linked one hell of article on goal ratio across different leagues in Europe).

So bottom line is, he will score goals at any level, and if, which is big if, VDV can net something like 17 goals in Serie A, then considering his technical capabilities, I think one would have to consider him as World Class. I think that is the trend in modern game. Play one up front, and play midfielder, who is more or less a forward. Lampard scores many goals from Chelsea, and Totti made a transition for Roma. If VDV can make similar transition to that Totti, I think for quoted price on his head, he will be a heck of bargain providing he stays fit of course. I am not a fan of playing One Forward, actually I hate it, but if you got players who can score from midfield, then I can take it nonetheless.

Just imagine:
Trezeguet; Nasri, Van der Vaart, Quaresma Combination.
That has goals, penetration, and above style written over it. Heck, even Iaquinta with his industry would fit in perfectly with those players, and VDV's goal scoring prowness would more than cover up Iaquinta's lack of such attributes. That is why I would like to sign VDV this year, and pick up Nasri or Quaresma next year with the possible lure of CL football with the prospect of reviving the biggest team in the world.
 

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O.M., Auction for Nasri

Liverpool and Arsenal are tracking O.M. 20 year old Samir Nasri. The France national, previously tracked by Inter Milan and Real Madrid, is valued by his club 15 million Euros.

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Lets try to sign this guy...
 

da_ledgeaun

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Jun 2, 2007
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O.M., Auction for Nasri

Liverpool and Arsenal are tracking O.M. 20 year old Samir Nasri. The France national, previously tracked by Inter Milan and Real Madrid, is valued by his club 15 million Euros.

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Lets try to sign this guy...
15 million for NASRI...ddaaammmmnn thats a bargain
 

Geof

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He's injured right now, no?

Marseille are in trouble, they just changed the coach (Eric Gerets, ex Galatasaray, Psv, Brugge). It's seen as Pape Diouf's last chance, so I really really don't think they'll let Nasri go in January. Having let Ribery go, despite the money, is still hurting them, and Diouf surely doesn't want to dig his own grave.

I think it will all depend on OM's season. They're playing CL right now, if they fail to qualify for next season's CL, I expect Nasri to ask for being transferred.
 
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