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Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
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Do you support communism too?
To be honest, real communism as imagined and as planned by Marx is a very good system, much more humane than the west. Just because the Western media brainwashed people into thinking communism is the devil's work doesnt mean it's true. However, none of the so called communist countries were really communist, as imagined by Marx. They were socialist countries, that didnt fully comply with Marx' theories and rules, shall we call them.

So yes, as an idea and as intended by Marxist sociologists, I do support communism and see it as a better option than the current capitalsit system.

However, because of the very nature of man to strive for personal achievements and materialistic accumulation real communism will never be able to exist. And as bad as people think of, say Fidel Castro, let me ask you which country has the best healthcare and education system in Central and South America?

Cuba does.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++


To be honest, real communism as imagined and as planned by Marx is a very good system, much more humane than the west. Just because the Western media brainwashed people into thinking communism is the devil's work doesnt mean it's true. However, none of the so called communist countries were really communist, as imagined by Marx. They were socialist countries, that didnt fully comply with Marx' theories and rules, shall we call them.

So yes, as an idea and as intended by Marxist sociologists, I do support communism and see it as a better option than the current capitalsit system.

However, because of the very nature of man to strive for personal achievements and materialistic accumulation real communism will never be able to exist. And as bad as people think of, say Fidel Castro, let me ask you which country has the best healthcare and education system in Central and South America?

Cuba does.
You ever been to Cuba ??

Most of the country is poverty.

I have friends who went their for a vacation, and young girls on the street (15, 16 year olds) offering sexual favors for the can of pepsi they were drinking.......

Thats pretty sad...............
 

ADP24it

Junior Member
Feb 28, 2005
118
Actually I am not into Same Sex Marriage but if someone I knew wanted to have a Same Sex Marriage, I will wish wish him/her happiness. I mean it's their choice...we cant stop them from marrying to one another...so the only way is to give them my blessing
 
Dec 26, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++


You ever been to Cuba ??

Most of the country is poverty.

I have friends who went their for a vacation, and young girls on the street (15, 16 year olds) offering sexual favors for the can of pepsi they were drinking.......

Thats pretty sad...............
This is the main different between capitalist and communism, capitalist countries with strong econonmy provide a good level of life for most of its ppl so a young girl won't need a Pepsi Can to sleep with ya it might do it for free....
No really communism is a good system only in theory, ya can read about it and maybe ya will like what ya read, but think for milllion before deploying it...
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++


You ever been to Cuba ??

Most of the country is poverty.

I have friends who went their for a vacation, and young girls on the street (15, 16 year olds) offering sexual favors for the can of pepsi they were drinking.......

Thats pretty sad...............

I didnt say Cuba was the perfect country, nor that it had the perfect version of communism.

I merely stated that they have good healthcare and education, probably better than in the US. Not perhaps by the technology or by the expertise of the doctors, but by the availability. The basis of communism is free healthcare and education for everyone, opposed to the US for example, where you might as well die if you dont have the money to pay your medical bills. Now, you tell me which is more humane?
 

Mr. Gol

Senior Member
Sep 15, 2004
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It's been legal here in Holland for years, and I don't see any reason for being against it. If two people of the same sex are in love who are we to prevent them from marrying? It's none of our business!
 

nedved34

Senior Member
Oct 3, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
Personally I'm against it, however if people want to marry the same sex I can't do anything to stop them. Everybody has the free will to choose want they want to do with their lives.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



I didnt say Cuba was the perfect country, nor that it had the perfect version of communism.

I merely stated that they have good healthcare and education, probably better than in the US. Not perhaps by the technology or by the expertise of the doctors, but by the availability. The basis of communism is free healthcare and education for everyone, opposed to the US for example, where you might as well die if you dont have the money to pay your medical bills. Now, you tell me which is more humane?
Zlatan...maybe you are misinformed....

We HAVE insurance for everyone, and its called MEDICAID

Any poor person, people too lazy to work, and drug addict is entitled to it...

its even better than my health care plan, and I work for a living

And guess whose pocket it comes out of ???

MINE :fero:
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,395
++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++


Zlatan...maybe you are misinformed....

We HAVE insurance for everyone, and its called MEDICAID

Any poor person, people too lazy to work, and drug addict is entitled to it...

its even better than my health care plan, and I work for a living

And guess whose pocket it comes out of ???

MINE :fero:
There is nothing wrong in social welfare
 

Emma

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2004
3,753
Its not a poor persons fault he is poor, many of those you deem 'too lazy to work' have a good reason not to be working. Those milking it when they could easily work is your governments fault for not addressing it. And what would you prefer to do with drug addicts? Burn them?
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


There is nothing wrong in social welfare
There is when ppl are too lazy to work, and are given everything because of it

come live here and see how you feel having all these damn taxes taken from you for this, and having your local parks closed indefinitely because your state gives more than any other for medicaid, and the county you live in has no cash to pay the workers who maintain the parks......
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
++ [ originally posted by Emma ] ++
Its not a poor persons fault he is poor, many of those you deem 'too lazy to work' have a good reason not to be working. Those milking it when they could easily work is your governments fault for not addressing it. And what would you prefer to do with drug addicts? Burn them?
you dont know what your talking about, dear.....

Where I live, ppl make out BETTER if they dont work, and are given free health care, food stamps, and money.

I see it every day, generations upon generations of ppl who are on welfare

It is the gov't fault for not addressing it...their way too liberal

Why should a person who doesnt work have better healthcare than ppl who do work ??
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,395
++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++


There is when ppl are too lazy to work, and are given everything because of it

come live here and see how you feel having all these damn taxes taken from you for this, and having your local parks closed indefinitely because your state gives more than any other for medicaid, and the county you live in has no cash to pay the workers who maintain the parks......
I live in Sweden and I know what you mean. I still agree that it is the best system.
After working for one year only in Sweden you can even sit at home anf get a salary from the government.
You know that Sweden takes refugees? They do and these get paid welfare from the moment they are admitted in the country, I think this is even worse than lazy people who get medication.

Unfortunately these people exist and you cannot just leave them, it is not fair, I agree, but it works better than not having it.
 
Sep 28, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++

You know that Sweden takes refugees? They do and these get paid welfare from the moment they are admitted in the country, I think this is even worse than lazy people who get medication.
but you arent exactly swedish yourself, youre libian. i dont know, but maybe your parents or grandparents came to sweden looking for better life?
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,395
I am not Lybian, I am Lebanese

My parents have never been in Sweden ever and I came here not as a refugee nor searching for a better life.

In my post, I did not say I am Swedish, I said that I live in Sweden.

Another thing I am here not living on welfare, I work and I pay taxes
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,251
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++


So yes, as an idea and as intended by Marxist sociologists, I do support communism and see it as a better option than the current capitalsit system.
Sorry, I don't feel like working my ass off, more than other people, only to settle for the same amount of "wealth" as my apathetic dunderhead of a neighbor next door. As one intelligent man used to say, "Communism is the death of the soul. It is the organization of total conformity - in short, of tyranny - and it is committed to making tyranny universal."
 
Sep 28, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++
I am not Lybian, I am Lebanese

My parents have never been in Sweden ever and I came here not as a refugee nor searching for a better life.

In my post, I did not say I am Swedish, I said that I live in Sweden.

Another thing I am here not living on welfare, I work and I pay taxes
dont get offended, i said i dont know the details. my post wasnt ment to insult you in any way. im sorry


but still, its unfair to bash refugees. thank god, you (not directed to jeeks) were born in a better country, you live better life than most of the worlds population so need to bash those who lives in shitholes and want a better life.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,395
I don't bash refugees at all, I have the utmost respect for the Swedish government that they accept refugees.

I did not get offended mate, no need to apologize, I just clarified it up maybe my post was a bit uptight but it wasn't meant to be
 

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