Saddam Hussein Sentenced to Death (12 Viewers)

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JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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Maresca said:
you mean 98% of iraqi people..
I can't generalize that much, but to be honest every Iraqi I met was against Saddam and I am sure they are happy with the outcome of the trial.

I have friends who were imprisoned for years and years without doing anything except having an opposing politics to Saddam. Their families would not hear of them and they would not hear of their families. The first six months in the jails they would be tortured, if someone leaves the prison they cannot send messages with him. Why would these people and their families feel for Saddam and remember him as opposing the west?

I see no reason in that. And I won't speak anything about Kurds, what he's done to them speaks for itself.

But I understand ReBeL's point of view, he supports Saddam the same way he supported Hassan Nasralla, why? Because he has nothing to do with what they did, they fought a cause he supports without him being affected directly.
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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as a Kurd from Iraq, I would call for the hardest punishment for this idiot. I am not sure though if the death penalty is the hardest..
for many arab and moslem people, who do not live in Irak, Sadam has been a hero, these people do not know, I hope, what was happeinig in Irak. It was saddam and his army, who killed 5000 Kurds in north irak. 182000 men were kidnaped and no one has ever heared anything about them until today, every day the iraqies find new commen graves. It was saddam who killed so many in southern irak, it was sadam, who never let the iraqi poeple leave in peace, as he started a war after another. It is because of saddam, that the so many poor people of Irak, in a country, which is so rich.. but saddam only thought about himself.. How can you say, that this idiot will go in history as the one who was against the west??
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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#45
Maresca said:
as a Kurd from Iraq, I would call for the hardest punishment for this idiot. I am not sure though if the death penalty is the hardest..
for many arab and moslem people, who do not live in Irak, Sadam has been a hero, these people do not know, I hope, what was happeinig in Irak. It was saddam and his army, who killed 5000 Kurds in north irak. 182000 men were kidnaped and no one has ever heared anything about them until today, every day the iraqies find new commen graves. It was saddam who killed so many in southern irak, it was sadam, who never let the iraqi poeple leave in peace, as he started a war after another. It is because of saddam, that the so many poor people of Irak, in a country, which is so rich.. but saddam only thought about himself.. How can you say, that this idiot will go in history as the one who was against the west??
Because his actions did not affect them directly. I felt disgusted when any one supported Hassan Nasralla during the last war in Lebanon. They just look at these people as heroes and don't really know what they are actually doing.
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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Jeeks said:
Because his actions did not affect them directly. I felt disgusted when any one supported Hassan Nasralla during the last war in Lebanon. They just look at these people as heroes and don't really know what they are actually doing.
I know what you mean, and this unfortunatly one of the biggest problems in our regions.
 

Snoop

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Oct 2, 2001
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#48
Jeeks said:
Because his actions did not affect them directly. I felt disgusted when any one supported Hassan Nasralla during the last war in Lebanon. They just look at these people as heroes and don't really know what they are actually doing.
you can't compare Saddam with Nasrallah, one of them is a criminal, the other is a leader that you are against him or his politics.

Nasrallah didn't kill your own people, Nasrallah didn't steal your money, while the most of the other politicians in Lebanon Killed your own people and stole your own money.
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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#49
Actually, I was so affected by this personally, jeeks...

Two of my cousins were killed by the hands of Al-Sadr idiots for nothing but because they're Palestinians...

The stupid gangs claim that Saddam provided Palestine with more than what he did to his own people, and all of us know that this is a big lie...

If you follow Sunni channels on Tv, such as Salah Aldin or Al-Zawra'a. you'll find the nice daily treatment for palestinians there...

I still have two other cousins there who are waiting for their destiny, and they're phoning us from time to time crying to rescue them, but what can we do against "Bush's Freedom"??

And should I be killed to have a personal experience in your viewpoint??
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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#51
snoop said:
you can't compare Saddam with Nasrallah, one of them is a criminal, the other is a leader that you are against him or his politics.

Nasrallah didn't kill your own people, Nasrallah didn't steal your money, while the most of the other politicians in Lebanon Killed your own people and stole your own money.
I am comparing how other people stand by them where they do things far from them.

ReBeL said:
Actually, I was so affected by this personally, jeeks...

Two of my cousins were killed by the hands of Al-Sadr idiots for nothing but because they're Palestinians...

The stupid gangs claim that Saddam provided Palestine with more than what he did to his own people, and all of us know that this is a big lie...

If you follow Sunni channels on Tv, such as Salah Aldin or Al-Zawra'a. you'll find the nice daily treatment for palestinians there...

I still have two other cousins there who are waiting for their destiny, and they're phoning us from time to time crying to rescue them, but what can we do against "Bush's Freedom"??

And should I be killed to have a personal experience in your viewpoint??
No, that's not what I meant. But would you stand by the leader of the country you live in making a war against someone?
 

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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#52
you can't compare Saddam with Nasrallah, one of them is a criminal, the other is a leader that you are against him or his politics.

Nasrallah didn't kill your own people, Nasrallah didn't steal your money, while the most of the other politicians in Lebanon Killed your own people and stole your own money
:agree:
there is a huge huge difference between those two.

for many arab and moslem people, who do not live in Irak, Sadam has been a hero
trust me from where i come from, this person wouldn't even deserve our spit.
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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Jeeks said:
No, that's not what I meant. But would you stand by the leader of the country you live in making a war against someone?
Actually, if that someone is Israel, I swear I'll be in the first group to fight...
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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#54
ReBeL said:
Actually, if that someone is Israel, I swear I'll be in the first group to fight...
Saddam declared war on Kurds, Shiites, Kuwait, Iran and then in the end he stood against the "west". Where do you see this justified?
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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sateeh said:
:agree:
there is a huge huge difference between those two.


trust me from where i come from, this person wouldn't even deserve our spit.
Sateeh, don't understand me wrong, mate, but are you Sunni or from the Shiiah??
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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Jeeks said:
Saddam declared war on Kurds, Shiites, Kuwait, Iran and then in the end he stood against the "west". Where do you see this justified?
If you go back to my first post in this thread, I said that this man had made mistakes, and the Kurds attack was one of these mistakes...

Kuwait war was a trap for him, and he fell in it, unfortunately...

The Shiites betrayed him during the Gulf war, and he had to stop their rebellion...

He had no another choice..
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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ReBeL said:
If you go back to my first post in this thread, I said that this man had made mistakes, and the Kurds attack was one of these mistakes...

Kuwait war was a trap for him, and he fell in it, unfortunately...

The Shiites betrayed him during the Gulf war, and he had to stop their rebellion...

He had no another choice..
These are HUGE mistakes, not ones that one closes an eye for for some heroic acts he did.
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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Jeeks said:
These are HUGE mistakes, not ones that one closes an eye for for some heroic acts he did.
Well, the Kurds thing is similar to what happened in France last year IMO...

Some innocent victims from the minority are always prone to be the target of the authorities, and that's not fair, I agree, but what is the alternative??
 
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