Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (45 Viewers)

[Kopanja]

@Seven Don’t wanna talk about Marxism-Leninism again. It’s all smoke and mirrors, slogans and kumbaya. But under the hood it’s just a Russian soldier with a rifle pointed at your family.
Gotta run, time for procedures.

 

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[Seven]

@Seven Don’t wanna talk about Marxism-Leninism again. It’s all smoke and mirrors, slogans and kumbaya. But under the hood it’s just a Russian soldier with a rifle pointed at your family.
Gotta run, time for procedures.

Exactly.

My point is kind of that at least they had the smoke and mirrors and pretended to be about something.

 

[AlexDP705]

My point isn't really about the people involved. I'm sure there were awful people fighting for the allied forces.

But if you look at the ideals and goals of Nazi Germany, yeah well, that is sheer evil.

The ideals and practices of German Nazism were no different to those that had been applied to the peoples of the global south by European colonialism for centuries prior. This includes (but is not limited to) genocide in South West Africa by the German Empire, European antisemitism and pogroms in Tsarist Russia, and the US's racial policy and genocidal settler-colonial expansion (lebensraum being the German version of American manifest destiny). This process and ideology only became "fascism" when it was turned onto whites/Europeans themselves, before then it was just "normal".

 

[Bjerknes]

New track just dropped.

https://x.com/golub/status/1896475336461996428?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg

 

[DAiDEViL]

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-unveils-e500-billion-defense-plan-as-security-threats-mount/

"BERLIN — Europe’s most powerful economy is poised to take a major step to bolster its defense capabilities, with Germany’s Chancellor-in-waiting Friedrich Merz announcing a plan to partly exempt defense spending from the country’s constitutional fiscal restraints.

"In view of the threats to our freedom and peace on our continent,” Merz said Tuesday evening in Berlin, the motto “whatever it takes” must now apply to the country’s defense.

"The political developments in Europe and the world are evolving faster than we anticipated just a week ago,” Merz said. “Germany and Europe must now undertake extraordinary efforts to ensure our defense capabilities."

fingers crossed.

 

[JuveJay]

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-unveils-e500-billion-defense-plan-as-security-threats-mount/

"BERLIN — Europe’s most powerful economy is poised to take a major step to bolster its defense capabilities, with Germany’s Chancellor-in-waiting Friedrich Merz announcing a plan to partly exempt defense spending from the country’s constitutional fiscal restraints.

"In view of the threats to our freedom and peace on our continent,” Merz said Tuesday evening in Berlin, the motto “whatever it takes” must now apply to the country’s defense.

"The political developments in Europe and the world are evolving faster than we anticipated just a week ago,” Merz said. “Germany and Europe must now undertake extraordinary efforts to ensure our defense capabilities."

fingers crossed.

Nuclear program when?

 

[Seven]

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-unveils-e500-billion-defense-plan-as-security-threats-mount/

"BERLIN — Europe’s most powerful economy is poised to take a major step to bolster its defense capabilities, with Germany’s Chancellor-in-waiting Friedrich Merz announcing a plan to partly exempt defense spending from the country’s constitutional fiscal restraints.

"In view of the threats to our freedom and peace on our continent,” Merz said Tuesday evening in Berlin, the motto “whatever it takes” must now apply to the country’s defense.

"The political developments in Europe and the world are evolving faster than we anticipated just a week ago,” Merz said. “Germany and Europe must now undertake extraordinary efforts to ensure our defense capabilities."

fingers crossed.

I'm sure Trump's decisions serve his business interests. And frankly what does he care about consequences anyway? He'll be dead soon.

But I do think we've reached a point of no return here. On a diplomatic front it will take the US decades to rebuild trust, if it ever happens.




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[Kopanja]

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-unveils-e500-billion-defense-plan-as-security-threats-mount/

"BERLIN — Europe’s most powerful economy is poised to take a major step to bolster its defense capabilities, with Germany’s Chancellor-in-waiting Friedrich Merz announcing a plan to partly exempt defense spending from the country’s constitutional fiscal restraints.

"In view of the threats to our freedom and peace on our continent,” Merz said Tuesday evening in Berlin, the motto “whatever it takes” must now apply to the country’s defense.

"The political developments in Europe and the world are evolving faster than we anticipated just a week ago,” Merz said. “Germany and Europe must now undertake extraordinary efforts to ensure our defense capabilities."

fingers crossed.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Russians being the ugly ass Orcs, the US are Saruman

 

[Kopanja]

Russians being the ugly ass Orcs, the US are Saruman

As stupid as it sounds. Couple of times, when it was really hard to handle, King Theodens speech was my remedy.

 

[s4tch]

So good to hear from you brother! Slava ukraini

just to remind you where you stood on this matter

and this is where we are now:




your "art of the deal" president has literal blood on his hands buddy

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Genuinely, how can you be ok with this?

@Nomuken @Hust

 

[GordoDeCentral]

just to remind you where you stood on this matter

and this is where we are now:




your "art of the deal" president has literal blood on his hands buddy

Literal? As if there's a president/leader in the history of the world who doesn't?

As for Ukraine, just is the case with Palestine, no matter how cruel or unjust your aggressor is, there has to be a point where you have to sue for peace.

 

[Nomuken]

Genuinely, how can you be ok with this?

It’s genuinely sad. That’s why Trump is trying to stop the war. Trump said it himself, many lives are being lost.

Putin isn’t coming to America asking for more money. Trump is for America.

 

[Kopanja]

You are a preacher now? Everyone wants peace, what peace?

 

[Nomuken]

That has to be the biggest mind fuck. What’s truly sad is living in a hermit kingdom and not knowing your in Ukraine and simply think your in a training exercise. Out of nowhere you see something sci-fi you never seen in your life (fpv drone) come at you and explodes in your face. Sitting ducks with no technology just men with assault rifles in a “training exercise”. Funny yet sad.


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You are a preacher now?

I’m not. I’m staying out of it, AFL_ITALIA was asking me.

 

[s4tch]

Literal? As if there's a president/leader in the history of the world who doesn't?

As for Ukraine, just is the case with Palestine, no matter how cruel or unjust your aggressor is, there has to be a point where you have to sue for peace.

are you all right with playing on russia's hands with every step trump takes?

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"art of the deal" the trump way:

 

[DAiDEViL]

Literal? As if there's a president/leader in the history of the world who doesn't?

As for Ukraine, just is the case with Palestine, no matter how cruel or unjust your aggressor is, there has to be a point where you have to sue for peace.

Nah man. If you let Putin get away with a land grab like that, he'll just keep trying again. This fucker can not be trusted. Signs a treaty today, attacks another country tomorrow. Guys like him only understand brute force.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

And then there's the fact that Trump has surrendered absolutely all leverage we had as well.

 

[s4tch]

rhetorical question: why didn't putin make any peace proposals, other than either ukraine capitulates or no peace?



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