Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (113 Viewers)

[Cerval]

Bad week. There is a video from Severdonetsk of russian castrating and killing Ukrainian POW, DO NOT watch it, it will mess you up.

They exposed on the internet a picture of the guy that did it apparently, hopefully he won't get off the hook

 

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[Kopanja]

They exposed on the internet a picture of the guy that did it apparently, hopefully he won't get off the hook

Well, they've killed 50 POWs from Azovstal today in Olenivka, Red Cross I think, vouched for their safety, otherwise, they would've never surrendered, but russians killed them anyway today. Idk what should happen to speed up weapons delivery. If we lose I really hope that Russia goes further and massacres cunts like Orban.

 

[Cerval]

Well, they've killed 50 POWs from Azovstal today in Olenivka, Red Cross I think, vouched for their safety, otherwise, they would've never surrendered, but russians killed them anyway today. Idk what should happen to speed up weapons delivery. If we lose I really hope that Russia goes further and massacres cunts like Orban.

For weapons, the media don't put as much pressure on the government, at least in Canada. Trudeau has unsurprisingly been a hypocrite with the Russia turbine story.

 

[Kopanja]

For weapons, the media don't put as much pressure on the government, at least in Canada. Trudeau has unsurprisingly been a hypocrite with the Russia turbine story.

tbh, I could not care less about turbine, we need weapons. Still some part of the so-called civilized world is sitting on a fence waiting for us to give up while Russians are raping, killing, mutilating, torturing. It’s not disheartening, because I have no heart left, black hole emanating cold rage instead of it.

 

[Cerval]

tbh, I could not care less about turbine, we need weapons. Still some part of the so-called civilized world is sitting on a fence waiting for us to give up while Russians are raping, killing, mutilating, torturing. It’s not disheartening, because I have no heart left, black hole emanating cold rage instead of it.

Did you receive those weapons promised by the US? Either way, forza and stay strong.

 

[Kopanja]

Did you receive those weapons promised by the US? Either way, forza and stay strong.

We did, but it’s barely enough unfortunately, just enough to keep us afloat. We are grateful, of course, but at the same time we know that there is more - plains, armor etc. We don’t have much to give to pay for them right now, only our lives, and we are paying, every day, and it fucking hurts everyday.

 

[ALC]

Can’t stand Russia, such a shithole country. Wish we had a real president who would just bomb the fuck out of them.

 

[alaska]

We did, but it’s barely enough unfortunately, just enough to keep us afloat. We are grateful, of course, but at the same time we know that there is more - plains, armor etc. We don’t have much to give to pay for them right now, only our lives, and we are paying, every day, and it fucking hurts everyday.

Obviously I don't speak for the US government, but we're not going to make you guys pay for the weapons surely. I thought they are a gift and also an investment in seeing Russia lose.

Bad week. There is a video from Severdonetsk of russian castrating and killing Ukrainian POW, DO NOT watch it, it will mess you up.

None of this would have happened if the West provided an actual united front and launched a military counteroffensive like two weeks in. People are far more afraid of the nuclear possibility than they ought to be. Just saying.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

This entire situation is fucked.

We can't get into a ground counteroffensive because Putin is a nutty fuck, he's literally threatened nuclear action.

 

[Kopanja]

This entire situation is fucked.

We can't get into a ground counteroffensive because Putin is a nutty fuck, he's literally threatened nuclear action.

But you don’t have to. Help us with ammo and we’ll do it ourselves, no need for boots on the ground. I know it might be annoying for westerners to hear “send us weapons” this often, but if we lose EU would have to pay much more somewhere down the road, and this time with lives, not money. Our win is the best outcome for human race.

 

[U Picciriddu]

But you don’t have to. Help us with ammo and we’ll do it ourselves, no need for boots on the ground. I know it might be annoying for westerners to hear “send us weapons” this often, but if we lose EU would have to pay much more somewhere down the road, and this time with lives, not money. Our win is the best outcome for human race.

I heard that the HIMARS are pretty successful. Let’s hope for the best

 

[Kopanja]

I heard that the HIMARS are pretty successful. Let’s hope for the best

They are amazing indeed, so as m270. But more needed, not even launchers, we have to ration ammo. Would be also nice to have at least 120-150 km range ammo, I am not even talking about 300 km range.

 

[Lancelot]

Donald Trump suggested that Ukraine should have done a deal with President Vladimir Putin to prevent Russia invading the country.

"They could have given up Crimea. They could have done something with NATO, 'Okay, we're not gonna join NATO,' and you'd have a country, because I believe Putin wanted to make a deal," Trump said.

"And now I don't think he wants to make a deal. I think it's much tougher to make a deal. He's blowing up the whole place. I mean, he'll take over the whole place. And it's very, very sad to watch what happened with Ukraine. Very, very sad."

We all know he is right

 

[X Æ A-12]

Please Trump has been all over the spectrum on Ukraine, his opinion changes every week because he is a reactionist who knows less about geopolitics than even the average American

 

[ALC]

trump is full of BS, like Russia would have made a deal lol

 

[Elvin]

We all know he is right

Ok but why the fuck should they make a deal like that? It's absurd.

It would open the pandora box. Trump doesnt know wtf he is talking about. Cant bargain with a terrorist! Putin is a terrorist in every sense of the word.

 

[Lancelot]

It`s not.

After all this comes to a conclusion Ukraine will not exist within the borders they did before the invasion.
I assume they will still have some sort of so called "government" and operating institutions. Their economy will be crippled. Millions and millions of people will leave their homes and never come back. Geographically Ukraine is located in Europe, but after this they will be on par with middle east countries like Syria or Afghanistan. For many years there will be no foreign investments. Most of their infrastructure will be destroyed. Their military equipment will be devastated. Unknown number of soldiers killed. Civilians too.
It will take couple of decades until they recover.

And yet, they will not become NATO member

The obvious question to the Vogue Model should be: "Was it worth it?"

 

[Elvin]

It`s not.

After all this comes to a conclusion Ukraine will not exist within the borders they did before the invasion.
I assume they will still have some sort of so called "government" and operating institutions. Their economy will be crippled. Millions and millions of people will leave their homes and never come back. Geographically Ukraine is located in Europe, but after this they will be on par with middle east countries like Syria or Afghanistan. For many years there will be no foreign investments. Most of their infrastructure will be destroyed. Their military equipment will be devastated. Unknown number of soldiers killed. Civilians too.
It will take couple of decades until they recover.

And yet, they will not become NATO member

The obvious question to the Vogue Model should be: "Was it worth it?"

Of course it's fucking worth it!

Also, Ukraine will return all of its territory almost immidiately after Putin regime falls. I give it 3 years max.

 

[Lancelot]

I hope you are not serious

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Also, Ukraine will return all of its territory almost immidiately after Putin regime falls. I give it 3 years max.

Impossible.

Ukraine army capacities and equipment will be diminished. Their morale will hit the rock bottom cause they already lost most of their territory. Now, those lost territories belong to Russia.
And yet, considering all these facts you are suggesting that Ukraine will invade Russia

The truth is, Ukraine will be so weak that freaking Moldova can invade them using homeless dogs and cats instead of infantry

 

[ALC]

Give me freedom or give me death. Ukraine is doing the right thing, you can’t let someone step all over you like that.