Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (78 Viewers)

[Vlad]

Why was it against all UN resolutions and laws?



Find me one post where I said Milosevic is great.

His actions lead to Nato intervention which were aimed to protect Kosovars and prevent Serbia from further aggression.

 

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[Dostoevsky]

His actions lead to Nato intervention

Intervention that was against all regulations and resolutions. Somehow weird I'd say.

 

[Elvin]

Why was it against all UN resolutions and laws?



Find me one post where I said Milosevic is great.

UN is not perfect. There were 4 UN resolutions condemning Armenian occupation of Karabakh but it didn't solve shit until we had to restore it via war.

UN is a joke and needs to be replaced by the League of Democratic Nations. Ironically, my country will not be included in it, but Armenia might be.

 

[Post Ironic]

Where did I say that? Somebody literally wrote how NATO is defensive and never invades.

You’ve been implying all through your posts above that no one has any understanding of this but you.

It’s very simple though. Putin is murderous tyrant trying to tear down a democracy because their citizens having better lives than his is an existential threat to his power. It has absolutely nothing to with NATO, considering NATO is in several countries bordering Russia already and has not once threatened Russia. He’s afraid that the example of an independent Ukrainian democracy with first world ambitions will weaken his grip. Pathetic turd of a human starting a war over such shit.

And we all bash America constantly. I’ve made countless posts bashing America’s history of meddling and foreign wars. That has zero to do with today. People need to stop the idiocy of “but America” in justifying or lessening the atrocity that this is. The focus right now is this. Not America. If you think America isn’t a punching bag for criticism and bashing around the world for things it has done, you are the oblivious one.

 

[il brutto]

How is it in Finland, do people feel threatened? Is it true that you're considering joining NATO?

I don't think people generally feel too threatened by the situation. People are just mostly sad for Ukraine and disappointed in Russia. Our nation went through a very similar thing with Russia in the 40s but in recent years the relations have been very good.

This has definitely added fuel to the NATO discussion and I see a lot of people campaigning for the possible NATO membership on social media. However I don't think it's currently something that is going to happen in the very near future. More likely is that we'll wait for the dust to settle and then have an open debate about it and then a possible referendum.

 

[Elvin]

I don't think people generally feel too threatened by the situation. People are just mostly sad for Ukraine and disappointed in Russia. Our nation went through a very similar thing with Russia in the 40s but in recent years the relations have been very good.

This has definitely added fuel to the NATO discussion and I see a lot of people campaigning for the possible NATO membership on social media. However I don't think it's currently something that is going to happen in the very near future. More likely is that we'll wait for the dust to settle and then have an open debate about it and then a possible referendum.

how would you vote in such a referendum?

 

[Vlad]

Intervention that was against all regulations and resolutions. Somehow weird I'd say.

If you dont commit war crimes, genocides, you have nothing to fear. When has Nato invaded or threatened to invade democratic country? You hear these threats from dictators like Putin on a daily basis but you somehow equate the two. That is weird Id say...

 

[Dostoevsky]

If you dont commit war crimes, genocides, you have nothing to fear. When has Nato invaded or threatened to invade democratic country? You hear these threats from dictators like Putin on a daily basis but you somehow equate the two. That is weird Id say...

If Russia built bases next to them then you'd hear the same threats. And that was my point from the beginning.

 

[.zero]

Don’t be a normie. Pls donate

 

[Vlad]

If Russia built bases next to them then you'd hear the same threats. And that was my point from the beginning.

Because they, you know crazy dictators wouldnt build a base for defensive purposes. I cant believe this is even up for discussion. The only countries that would enter any military alliance with Russia would be authoritarian ones with equal teritorial pretensions.

 

[il brutto]

how would you vote in such a referendum?

Probably in favour of joining NATO, but I don't think this is the right time for such referendum. I also think we need to maintain our own ability to defend this country no matter whether we're in NATO or not. There are too many countries that are overly reliant on NATO for protection.

 

[Lapa]

How is it in Finland, do people feel threatened? Is it true that you're considering joining NATO?

We have been waiting for them like 80 years now, I would say we are threatened but it's nothing new. People here finally want us to join Nato but that ship has sailed already.

It was like 20 years ago when I said that as long as our neighbour is fucking Russia, we need to join Nato, you can never trust those folks.

 

[Nzoric]

His actions lead to Nato intervention which were aimed to protect Kosovars and prevent Serbia from further aggression.

Nato aided ethnic cleansing in operation storm, in Croatia. But it was serb casualties, so no one gives a fuck.

This is getting out of hand tho. Nato good, Russia bad, Serb not Human. We get it, lets move on.


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[Vlad]

Nato aided ethnic cleansing in operation storm, in Croatia. But it was serb casualties, so no one gives a fuck.

This is getting out of hand tho. Nato good, Russia bad, Serb not Human. We get it, lets move on.


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This is again false and dispelled at international court for war crimes. And again you are selective. War in Yugoslavia didnt start in 1995. What has happened for 3 years on occupied territories, how many Croats had to flee their homes, or were killed? Similar to Russian Ukrainian conflict, you have enabled rebels for 3 years with constant military and economical support to preform ethnic cleansing on occupied territories.

 

[Lapa]

Nato aided ethnic cleansing in operation storm, in Croatia. But it was serb casualties, so no one gives a fuck.

This is getting out of hand tho. Nato good, Russia bad, Serb not Human. We get it, lets move on.


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I know nothing about Serbia really but Dusan always makes it sound like a real shithole.

 

[Vlad]

And no Serbs or Russians arent bad. Its regimes they were under that destroyed several generations

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Brighton Beach Russians are pretty bad though tbh

 

[Lapa]

Brighton Beach Russians are pretty bad though tbh

All Russians are.

 

[Cerval]

Kyiv: full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT has been achieved, the process has begun

https://www.uawire.org/kyiv-full-co...swift-has-been-achieved-the-process-has-begun

 

[DAiDEViL]

Kyiv: full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT has been achieved, the process has begun

https://www.uawire.org/kyiv-full-co...swift-has-been-achieved-the-process-has-begun

Didn't read what you linked yet, but apparently we try to water down the ban somehow.