Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (89 Viewers)

[radekas]

Let's not pretend it isn't already like that.
China is in massive need of resources.
Like the Gas Russia is willingly to sell.
And they'll pay more than europheans would do.
Next I bet on Taiwan move for China.
But Taiwan is not Ukraina and the west+Japan will never let China get a hold of TSMC

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Oh please. USA moved anywhere in the globe for much less. Be serious.
which other army is in North America? Canada or Mexico? but they're not a threat to USA.
Instead if chinese and russians send men and weapons that would be totally different

Can you please just stop trying so hard to be DAT FREE THINKER WHATABOUTTHEEVILWEST and consider that people are actually dying right now because one country, let's name it Russia, invaded another country, let's name it Ukraine for no other reason then being independent.

We get it, you think USA is as bad as Russia. But it's not USA killing civilians in Ukraine RIGHT NOW so if you could just stop or maybe go to a russian forum. You will find kindred souls there for sure.

 

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[AFL_ITALIA]

Let's not pretend it isn't already like that.
China is in massive need of resources.
Like the Gas Russia is willingly to sell.
And they'll pay more than europheans would do.
Next I bet on Taiwan move for China.
But Taiwan is not Ukraina and the west+Japan will never let China get a hold of TSMC

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Oh please. USA moved anywhere in the globe for much less. Be serious.
which other army is in North America? Canada or Mexico? but they're not a threat to USA.
Instead if chinese and russians send men and weapons that would be totally different

What if I told you I don't believe them to be a military threat either?

But instead of going back and forth, let's just simplify this. You're saying Russia is justified in their actions because other nations would do the same, not that any nation doing this would be wrong, correct?

 

[Elvin]

Let's not pretend it isn't already like that.
China is in massive need of resources.
Like the Gas Russia is willingly to sell.
And they'll pay more than europheans would do.
Next I bet on Taiwan move for China.
But Taiwan is not Ukraina and the west+Japan will never let China get a hold of TSMC

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Oh please. USA moved anywhere in the globe for much less. Be serious.
which other army is in North America? Canada or Mexico? but they're not a threat to USA.
Instead if chinese and russians send men and weapons that would be totally different

How the fuck is anyone ever a threat to a Nuclear Power always baffles me. No one is ever going to invade neither US nor Russia ffs. Putin's excuse is just that - a fuckin excuse.

 

[campionesidd]

russia and inter milan are two abominations I would not miss if they stopped existing

You are from Lithuania right? Do you think Putin would invade if you weren’t a part of NATO?

 

[U Picciriddu]

Guys let's play a game
What would United States do if Mexico join an alliance with Russia and China.
China/Russia send men,weapons and missiles in Mexico
Would USA wait for this to happen or stop it before?

We all know the answer.
This is the same. Ukraine wanted to join Nato and that imply soldiers,weapon and more in there.

What I don't understand (oh well I understand their free will to join the west rather than stay a russian puppets) what they thought would happen.
Did they think Russia wouldn't dare?

It’s not that black and white. There’s so much more to this conflict.

As you probably know, Russia has a big history in many current NATO-members states and Ukraine, and that isn’t a bright one. Stalin did horrible things to them.

NATO isn’t a aggression pact towards Russia.

 

[Kopanja]

Guys let's play a game
What would United States do if Mexico join an alliance with Russia and China.
China/Russia send men,weapons and missiles in Mexico
Would USA wait for this to happen or stop it before?

We all know the answer.
This is the same. Ukraine wanted to join Nato and that imply soldiers,weapon and more in there.

What I don't understand (oh well I understand their free will to join the west rather than stay a russian puppets) what they thought would happen.
Did they think Russia wouldn't dare?

Fuck you!

 

[radekas]

You are from Lithuania right? Do you think Putin would invade if you weren’t a part of NATO?

I'm from Poland. But it's the same and yes. I think without NATO countries like Baltic States and Poland would be a target sooner or later. I even think they still might be in a few years if Putin gets what he wants from Ukraine unpunished.

It's even worse for Baltic States actually because they were a part of his precious holy USSR empire and Poland was "only" a puppet state.

 

[Elvin]

You are from Lithuania right? Do you think Putin would invade if you weren’t a part of NATO?

Long long time ago. Ukraine was pro-Russia before 2014, the Baltics have always been anti.

 

[Bjerknes]

God, what a bunch of fucking retards!

 

[campionesidd]

Can you please just stop trying so hard to be DAT FREE THINKER WHATABOUTTHEEVILWEST and consider that people are actually dying right now because one country, let's name it Russia, invaded another country, let's name it Ukraine for no other reason then being independent.

We get it, you think USA is as bad as Russia. But it's not USA killing civilians in Ukraine RIGHT NOW so if you could just stop or maybe go to a russian forum. You will find kindred souls there for sure.

BTW I’m sure the pro-Western folks here condemn US military actions too. I’ve been saying for years that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Tony Blair are war criminals.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

BTW I’m sure the pro-Western folks here condemn US military actions too. I’ve been saying for years that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Tony Blair are war criminals.

I don't think I know anyone under the age of like 50 that DOESN'T as a matter of fact. It's such a ridiculous argument.

 

[U Picciriddu]

BTW I’m sure the pro-Western folks here condemn US military actions too. I’ve been saying for years that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Tony Blair are war criminals.

I have a love and hate relationship with the United States. Hate their foreign policy, love the science and entertainment part. Always disliked US wars in the Middle-East

But there’s no denial that the United States is key to European safety. Although I sincerely hope that Europes becomes more self sustaining, as seen now with the gas/energie crisis.

 

[Knowah]

Let's not pretend it isn't already like that.
China is in massive need of resources.
Like the Gas Russia is willingly to sell.
And they'll pay more than europheans would do.
Next I bet on Taiwan move for China.
But Taiwan is not Ukraina and the west+Japan will never let China get a hold of TSMC

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Oh please. USA moved anywhere in the globe for much less. Be serious.
which other army is in North America? Canada or Mexico? but they're not a threat to USA.
Instead if chinese and russians send men and weapons that would be totally different

These hypothetical situations serve as nothing more than excuses and distractions from REALITY. They have no bearing on current events other than to steer the narrative and public view away from current events. If you truly want to carry water for Russian aggression, there are many forums where you can do it and receive the cheers and adoration of other warmonger apologists who like to use the "but but but USA bad too!!!!!!"

Watch, I'll do a hypothetical myself:

Hey, guys. Imagine if the USA invaded Canada and started executing every citizen in Canada with a firing squad and also started using nukes to glass the entire Canadian countryside. That'd be pretty awful right? So why do you guys support the West since this situation technically isn't 0% probability and thus a possible event?

 

[Elvin]

BTW I’m sure the pro-Western folks here condemn US military actions too. I’ve been saying for years that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Tony Blair are war criminals.

Sure I'll easily condemn them if that will make the apologists STFU.

 

[GiocataGrande]

These guys have balls of steel. Heroes

 

[U Picciriddu]

NATO will reinforce its eastern flank by deploying 40k troops in the Baltic States

 

[campionesidd]

Sure I'll easily condemn them if that will make the apologists STFU.

Even then it would a false equivalence….. USA invaded Iraq, who was ruled by a military dictator who gassed his own people (still wrong, and a contemptible action). Russia is invading a country with a democratically elected government. The USA invading Mexico or Canada would be an equivalent to what is happening right now.

 

[Valerio.]

What if I told you I don't believe them to be a military threat either?

But instead of going back and forth, let's just simplify this. You're saying Russia is justified in their actions because other nations would do the same, not that any nation doing this would be wrong, correct?

not saying that
I'm trying to understand what moved Russia to invade Ukraine.
That does not mean that I support in anyway what they're doing

 

[BayernFan]

 

[Valerio.]

These hypothetical situations serve as nothing more than excuses and distractions from REALITY. They have no bearing on current events other than to steer the narrative and public view away from current events. If you truly want to carry water for Russian aggression, there are many forums where you can do it and receive the cheers and adoration of other warmonger apologists who like to use the "but but but USA bad too!!!!!!"

Watch, I'll do a hypothetical myself:

Dude this isn't dama but a fucking chess game.
One move isn't simply a move.
Sadly there is no hope for Ukraina because Europe,Nato and Usa had to move before the actual invasion and send men to support Ukraina.
They did not. Sure they sold weapons,helmets and what's not but what this matter against a russian army playing home grounds?
So West already gave up on Ukraina and next war ground gonna be Taiwan.
But as I wrote TSMC produce 60% of world wide of high end semiconductors which are needed for any fking tech right now.