Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (61 Viewers)

JuveE46

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Dec 6, 2015
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Bans might help a little but Putin and goons have thought of that beforehand for sure.
For example Iran is 100% ally and supporter if not by military but with agriculture and supplies and food. China and Russia practically own Iranian mines this includes fuel, coal etc. This while not exactly a secret, is underestimated. West needs to wake the fuck up or the Mongol genes will kill 1/10 of world population like Putin's idol Genghis Khan did back in the day.
 
May 26, 2016
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idk how people think that SWIFT ban will make such a huge difference. This war has been calculated and discussed by Kremlin for months/years.

Surely they would have predicted this and this war wont be decided by economic sanctions anyways.

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Bans might help a little but Putin and goons have thought of that beforehand for sure.
For example Iran is 100% ally and supporter if not by military but with agriculture and supplies and food. China and Russia practically own Iranian mines this includes fuel, coal etc. This while not exactly a secret, is underestimated. West needs to wake the fuck up or the Mongol genes will kill 1/10 of world population like Putin's idol Genghis Khan did back in the day.
China/Russia/iran/Afghanistan Block is hugely underestimated by the west. Pushing Russia towards China is a fatal mistake
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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One thing is for certain imo west makes moves rather slowly which questions the whole system. Seems like a giant turtle with too many different opinions floating around.
 
Jun 16, 2020
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idk how people think that SWIFT ban will make such a huge difference. This war has been calculated and discussed by Kremlin for months/years.

Surely they would have predicted this and this war wont be decided by economic sanctions anyways.

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China/Russia/iran/Afghanistan Block is hugely underestimated by the west. Pushing Russia towards China is a fatal mistake
Watch this video, their relationship is more complicated than it seems

 
May 26, 2016
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What else you wanna do? Work with that lunatic again? Fuck that. Push them away for good.
i agree : fuck Putin and whats done is done: diplomacy is basically out of the question at this point, unless things change drastically.

What is my concern in all of this is how China and Russia relations will develop after this and how the power structures in the world will develop.

The days of European/US monopoly over the world is over as we know it (imo) , things will change after this.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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idk how people think that SWIFT ban will make such a huge difference. This war has been calculated and discussed by Kremlin for months/years.

Surely they would have predicted this and this war wont be decided by economic sanctions anyways.

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China/Russia/iran/Afghanistan Block is hugely underestimated by the west. Pushing Russia towards China is a fatal mistake
why Iran and Afghanistan? These countries have a GDP less than Florida and Maine respectively.
 
May 26, 2016
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Watch this video, their relationship is more complicated than it seems

interesting video and obviously complicated stuff.

I dont know enough to speak on this with any type of certainty: it just seems to me like a potentially terrible situation , that tyrranical states like Russia and China is potentially going to work closely together going forward. Its scary

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why Iran and Afghanistan? These countries have a GDP less than Florida and Maine respectively.
GDP is not the point, im talking about the potential of unstability and further war in the world.

this was recorded a few days before the invasion, but he talks about the same concept here:

 
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