Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (29 Viewers)

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[Seven]

We should bill Europe when it’s over

Isn't that what the US does after every war?

Bill other countries?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Isn't that what the US does after every war?

Bill other countries?

Billing is not what we do. Billing would be issuing an invoice for services rendered; we hold you assets and move them to our banks. Remember we still have billions in Afghani assets frozen in US banks?

 

[JuveJay]

I liked a retweet further down where the topic was "replacing 'Americans' with 'immigrants'".

 

[campionesidd]

I liked a retweet further down where the topic was "replacing 'Americans' with 'immigrants'".

Haven’t they been doing that since 1600?

 

[Dostoevsky]

Isn't that what the US does after every war?

Bill other countries?

From what I've heard they are borrowing weapons and each thing it gets destroyed they (Ukraine) will have to pay for. Apparently the US had the same deal woth England during the WWII and they were paying decades for that, they paid it off last year iirc

 

[Ronn]

From what I've heard they are borrowing weapons and each thing it gets destroyed they (Ukraine) will have to pay for. Apparently the US had the same deal woth England during the WWII and they were paying decades for that, they paid it off last year iirc

Lend-lease program, as it was called back then, was generally free. US sold some of the still usable equipment to UK with a huge discount paid from long term loans also provided by IS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease?wprov=sfti1

 

[JuveJay]

Yeah WWII basically ended the British Empire for that reason. I think UK only recently paid off its debt.

 

[Elvin]

So the USA is the bad guys? Again?

 

[radekas]

Didn't you know that American Jews orchestrated the whole WWII fiasco?

 

[U Picciriddu]

We should bill Europe when it’s over

Can’t bill the cornerstone of humanity

 

[JuveJay]

So the USA is the bad guys? Again?

Not sure who you are responding to but it is what it is, Hitler needed stopping.

 

[Elvin]

The point was that the US loans while heavily discounted were not “free” or pure gestures of good will. The US had specific terms included for it’s own self-interest (as any nation, especially Britain, likely would have done) and to position itself as the world’s dominant economy after the war.

You can choose to view that as good or bad or fair or unfair. Many in the British government including Churchill and Keynes certainly were not happy about what they saw as the US taking advantage with the terms of the loans, but again they did not have much choice.

Subjectively speaking helping to defeat Nazi Germany and collapse the British empire was incredibly based. The rise of the US empire from that, not so much (imo).

People hate when I say this but the US is the first ever benevolent superpower. I dont care what anyone says, I'm grateful to them.

 

[JuveJay]

It's better the devil you know and who shares more common interests. There isn't really any way to be a global superpower without getting your hands dirty and upsetting a lot of people. China try to do it through their approach but it isn't hard for anyone in the West to see what they really are.

 

[IliveForJuve]

People hate when I say this but the US is the first ever benevolent superpower. I dont care what anyone says, I'm grateful to them.

They're benevolent until a drone bombs some freedom upon your home.

 

[Elvin]

They're benevolent until a drone bombs some freedom upon your home.

They are benevolent on average and in comparison to other past and present superpowers/empires.

 

[Kopanja]

Jesus fucking Christ, what have we done to have neighbors like this – Russia, Belarus, and Hungary ?

 

[Nejc]

These 3 are there and you bombed Poland…

 

[JuveJay]

Jesus fucking Christ, what have we done to have neighbors like this – Russia, Belarus, and Hungary ?

Imagine getting in bed with Russia and Iran and thinking you're on the right side. Hopefully down the line Hungarians overthrow that troglodyte running the show.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

If being founded on expansionist genocide and slavery (to the extent that you inspire Nazi Germany), having the blood of millions on your hands from waging multiple wars and supporting right-wing dictators and terrorists/death squads across the globe, and using your dominant financial and military position as a bludgeon to force your own economic model onto the world is now considered benevolent, then the meaning must have changed. But to each their own.

As an American, this is probably more accurate than anything else.