Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (50 Viewers)

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

In Africa? A million people died in a month in Rwanda. That's one month.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

In Africa? A million people died in a month in Rwanda. That's one month.

I don't even know why i bother

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Likewise.

 

[Tomice]

I'm talking about Europe. I couldn't care less about India. If I was being thorough, I'd have to talk about Africa for three paragraphs.

Didn't know Israel was in Europe

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

UEFA, baby.

 

[Tomice]

UEFA, baby.

Originaly we were an AFC powerhouse until they kicked us out

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I was kind of talking about borders being drawn, Israel was drawn from nowhere by the US, primarily, after WW2. The Middle East has been mostly unchanged since WW1. That's kind of the gist of what I was saying. These guys are acting like every country became a country in Europe after WW2 when 1991-1996 was more influential than WW2.

 

[Goodfella]

yeah borders established by international law.

Preventing conflicts like Nagorno-Karabakh and Ukraine?

 

[Vlad]

I was kind of talking about borders being drawn, Israel was drawn from nowhere by the US, primarily, after WW2. The Middle East has been mostly unchanged since WW1. That's kind of the gist of what I was saying. These guys are acting like every country became a country in Europe after WW2 when 1991-1996 was more influential than WW2.

Exclude Yugoslavia out of it. It was federation of republics. Republics borders were established during and after the WW2, by an antifascist comitee. With dissolution of Yugoslavia, republics declared independance based on already defined borders by said comitee.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I'm sure that's true with Soviet Republics, too. Yugoslavia shouldn't be excluded. It appeared as a single unit, just like the Soviet Union. That's the point of the Union. I wouldn't say the US is 50 separate republics, even though each state has a constitution. Same with Czechoslovakia.

 

[Vlad]

US and Europe, apples and oranges. We are talking about former Yugoslav republic that had their governance, institutions, police, army, were independant at some point or part of other kindoms at some other times for thousands of years before willingly joining Yugoslavia. As Ive said previously their final borders were established during the WWII. Their borders werent drawn up in 91/92.

 

[Strickland]

I'm sure that's true with Soviet Republics, too. Yugoslavia shouldn't be excluded. It appeared as a single unit, just like the Soviet Union. That's the point of the Union. I wouldn't say the US is 50 separate republics, even though each state has a constitution. Same with Czechoslovakia.

If Hitler had conquered Europe in WW2, would you see Europe as a big Union as well?

The 50 years between the WW2 and fall of Soviet Republic is nothing compared to the history of the region.

 

[Elvin]

Preventing conflicts like Nagorno-Karabakh and Ukraine?

If not for international law, Azerbaijan would have never been able/allowed to restore its territorial integrity and Ukraine would not be able to defend itself. Legal basis helps, you know.

 

[Vlad]

Borders were not established after WWII save for dirty, dumb Israel, and Germany, for the most part. The Middle East is England's fault after WW 1 when they arbitrarily drew borders still causing issues today, and most of the Soviet Satellite nations weren't drawn or voted on until after 1991. The pink satellite countries split a little later (Yugoslavia).

oh boy....

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

US and Europe, apples and oranges. We are talking about former Yugoslav republic that had their governance, institutions, police, army, were independant at some point or part of other kindoms at some other times for thousands of years before willingly joining Yugoslavia. As Ive said previously their final borders were established during the WWII. Their borders werent drawn up in 91/92.

Right, I agree with you. I understand there are regions of Kurds in the Middle East, but there isn't a Kurdistan on the map. If we are strictly talking about international borders, as that's the only thing I've been talking about, then you would include what's written on a damn international map. That's literally all I'm saying. I'm not saying Serbs and Bosniaks and Albanians and Muslims and cats and dogs are the same at all. Hell, I'm not even saying they should have been together in the first place. All I am saying, is at one point in time, all of those places were together on a map, showing their international border as a whole as a country called Yugoslavia.

If Hitler had conquered Europe in WW2, would you see Europe as a big Union as well?

The 50 years between the WW2 and fall of Soviet Republic is nothing compared to the history of the region.

Yes.

 

[JuventusUruguay]

Don’t know but the Austro-Hungarian Empire never should had been disintegrated. Now I have to listen to Bad Bunny instead of Beethoven, Schubertz and Strauss

 

[Lapa]

In Africa? A million people died in a month in Rwanda. That's one month.

And we all have to remember that it's because of the Europeans. We are at fault that Africans can't build a well, raise food of any kind or found a working society.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I think that was primarily black on black, broseppi.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Don’t know but the Austro-Hungarian Empire never should had been disintegrated. Now I have to listen to Bad Bunny instead of Beethoven, Schubertz and Strauss

I don't like Bad Bunny but you wouldn't be approaching hoes in the club with all that gay old music playing in the background.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

You're right, he would have his carriage driver do it.