Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (65 Viewers)

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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So wtf is Serbia's problem then? Get your shit together and join the sanctions.

Get over your NATO hate and support your fellow Slavs... the ones being invaded.

Jesus fuck.
Our relations with Russia won't change, I'll give you that. To me this looks like picking sides between west and east and we picked east due to China's growing power and historical ties with Russia. None of our political parties will pick NATO as far as I know. Sanctions won't ever happen at this point. But we're such a small fish that I don't even see the point with sanctions. Without Russia's gas our economy would collapse totally, we can't even afford that.
 

Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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Our relations with Russia won't change, I'll give you that. To me this looks like picking sides between west and east and we picked east due to China's growing power and historical ties with Russia. None of our political parties will pick NATO as far as I know. Sanctions won't ever happen at this point. But we're such a small fish that I don't even see the point with sanctions. Without Russia's gas our economy would collapse totally, we can't even afford that.
It is picking sides. And on one side is Hitler ffs!
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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I mean on a broader scale outside of the current war. I meant picking where the next chair or power will be.
all you have to do is take a look at what side hungary picks and go with the opposite side lol. during our recent history (i mean since ww1) we always picked the eventual losers. and now orbán picked russia, china and turkey for us

run, serbs, rrruuuuuunnnn :panic:
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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all you have to do is take a look at what side hungary picks and go with the opposite side lol. during our recent history (i mean since ww1) we always picked the eventual losers. and now orbán picked russia, china and turkey for us

run, serbs, rrruuuuuunnnn :panic:
Bro just look at Orban and Vucic. It's copy paste politics. I think Vucic, Orban, Erdogan and Putin are bffs.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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all you have to do is take a look at what side hungary picks and go with the opposite side lol. during our recent history (i mean since ww1) we always picked the eventual losers. and now orbán picked russia, china and turkey for us

run, serbs, rrruuuuuunnnn :panic:
The George Costanza of international políticas
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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Our relations with Russia won't change, I'll give you that. To me this looks like picking sides between west and east and we picked east due to China's growing power and historical ties with Russia. None of our political parties will pick NATO as far as I know. Sanctions won't ever happen at this point. But we're such a small fish that I don't even see the point with sanctions. Without Russia's gas our economy would collapse totally, we can't even afford that.
This is what I was trying to get at before. If you're still importing (now cheap) gas from Russia where there is virtually no other demand, and Serbia being self-sufficient in terms of food production (isn't it?), then what is the primary driver of this 30-40% inflation on food?
 
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This is what I was trying to get at before. If you're still importing (now cheap) gas from Russia where there is virtually no other demand, and Serbia being self-sufficient in terms of food production (isn't it?), then what is the primary driver of this 30-40% inflation on food?
Inflation isn't tied to any one thing, it's a symptom of large macro and microeconomic issues. Financial markets are a large cause, housing is a cause, energy in all forms is a cause. Do they get Russian Oil and refine their own gasoline and diesel? Do they import that as well? Is the demand for fuel a component to the food production? As fuel prices go up, so does the cost of harvesting grain to make bread, to harvest potatoes. Fuel is a large component of everything and it goes down the line to the consumer. One percent increase in fuel costs can contribute five or ten percent of finished product cost. Trains, trucks, tractors, combines, mining equipment, busses, houses all run on fuel. Natural Gas is only a small component of "energy" as a whole.
 

Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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all you have to do is take a look at what side hungary picks and go with the opposite side lol. during our recent history (i mean since ww1) we always picked the eventual losers. and now orbán picked russia, china and turkey for us

run, serbs, rrruuuuuunnnn :panic:
How dumb can one be to think Russia will be winners after all this.

In the 21st century when you start a war of conquest, you've already lost.

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Bro just look at Orban and Vucic. It's copy paste politics. I think Vucic, Orban, Erdogan and Putin are bffs.
Yes. Fellow autocrats.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Still doesn't prove anything of course but guess this guy couldn't help himself lol (Polish former Defence/Foreign minister and MEP, husband of neocon and Biden admin. insider Anne Applebaum).
and he retweeted this earlier today lol

if it's really the muricans then there's no way the germans weren't aware of this way before it happened
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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Inflation isn't tied to any one thing, it's a symptom of large macro and microeconomic issues. Financial markets are a large cause, housing is a cause, energy in all forms is a cause. Do they get Russian Oil and refine their own gasoline and diesel? Do they import that as well? Is the demand for fuel a component to the food production? As fuel prices go up, so does the cost of harvesting grain to make bread, to harvest potatoes. Fuel is a large component of everything and it goes down the line to the consumer. One percent increase in fuel costs can contribute five or ten percent of finished product cost. Trains, trucks, tractors, combines, mining equipment, busses, houses all run on fuel. Natural Gas is only a small component of "energy" as a whole.
I stupidly keep immediately thinking of oil/gasoline when seeing the word "gas" in an international context, bad habit :sergio:
 

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