Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (103 Viewers)

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,862
"...The BND can apparently prove forensically that Russian nationals are responsible for the atrocities in Bucha. Mercenaries from private security companies are also said to have been involved.

BND informed members of the Bundestag in several confidential meetings about its findings on the events in Butscha. What the service presented was shocking, according to faction circles. The BND was able to reconstruct what was going on in Butscha by evaluating satellite recordings, publicly accessible videos that were distributed via social media, and through intercepted radio messages.


Accordingly, it is said that the BND can clearly prove forensically that Russian nationals are responsible for the murder of the civilians.

Using satellite images, the BND has proven which Russian units were on site at the time in question. In addition, the BND has indications that mercenaries employed by private Russian security companies were also involved in the atrocities.

Russian soldiers are said to be talking about the shooting of a person who was cycling in Bucha. The radio message refers to the harrowing photos that have caused horror around the world, which also show people being shot while riding bicycles.

The BND is assuming that the murder of the civilians in Butscha did not take place on the soldiers' own initiative, but in accordance with instructions from the military leadership. The BND intends to make the results of its investigation available to the Federal Public Prosecutor, who has already started investigating war crimes in Ukraine."

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/bnd-ukraine-107.html
German LEA getting major shit done lately, respect
 

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Jul 7, 2018
503
Seriously?
A thread about the Russia - Ukraine war where an actual Russian citizen posts all sorts of information on all sorts of topics from different sources is what makes this thread unreadable?

:sergio:
No, the fact that you people cannot even handle someone saying that Russia using currency manipulation is something against international trade rules. Since none of you have something better to do in their lives, you need to discuss obvious things, and worst, think that someone is defending Russia just for saying something obvious like capital controls and exchange rate restrictions are going to soften the impact of a crisis in the short-term, especially for the Russian oligarchs.
I’m sure Lancelot, that Uruguay dude, and the Serbs will explain why this a very good justification for Putin to invade Ukraine. Maybe it was because Ukraine-US biowarfare labs were creating Borscht based bio-weapons. :scared:
I don’t care the reason why Russia invaded Ukraine. They did and that’s it. Nor Russians will accept West point of view, nor West will accept Russian point of view. Now we are trying to discuss the consequences of such invasion, but is hard with people who barely know how to count. That’s why this thread is completely unreadable, because you only want to insult. You did with me, with the serb, and you even did it with Tomice who thinks exactly the same as you in everything lol
 

GiocataGrande

Commendatore
May 26, 2016
4,073
The problem here is that the media in the West has lied quite a lot in the past so it becomes difficult to believe the current narrative, even if this time, they are telling the truth. Much like the boy who cried wolf.
quite a lot? lol more like thats what they always have done. Geopolitical reporting in the west is a joke and at best arrogant. They are no better than Kreml, just not as ridicolous. Manipulative lying rats
 
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Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
No, the fact that you people cannot even handle someone saying that Russia using currency manipulation is something against international trade rules. Since none of you have something better to do in their lives, you need to discuss obvious things, and worst, think that someone is defending Russia just for saying something obvious like capital controls and exchange rate restrictions are going to soften the impact of a crisis in the short-term, especially for the Russian oligarchs.

I don’t care the reason why Russia invaded Ukraine. They did and that’s it. Nor Russians will accept West point of view, nor West will accept Russian point of view. Now we are trying to discuss the consequences of such invasion, but is hard with people who barely know how to count. That’s why this thread is completely unreadable, because you only want to insult. You did with me, with the serb, and you even did it with Tomice who thinks exactly the same as you in everything lol
Dummy of the week, if you spread fake news, then be prepared to be insulted
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,897
No, the fact that you people cannot even handle someone saying that Russia using currency manipulation is something against international trade rules. Since none of you have something better to do in their lives, you need to discuss obvious things, and worst, think that someone is defending Russia just for saying something obvious like capital controls and exchange rate restrictions are going to soften the impact of a crisis in the short-term, especially for the Russian oligarchs.
I don't know who you are referring to when saying "you people" since I don't know if I've ever discussed something with you, but thanks for including me in the group anyway! It's always nice to feel welcome.
It's less nice to be told I have nothing better to do with my life though. That really hurts. :cry:

But to end on a positive note: thanks for all your economic insight. It's truly very remarkable & there's really no way I could have come up with it myself. I don't even know how I survived without it in the past.
 
Jul 7, 2018
503
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/01/world/europe/russia-putin-support-ukraine.html

“The public’s endorsement of the war lacks the patriotic groundswell that greeted the annexation of Crimea in 2014. But polls released this week by Russia’s most respected independent pollster, Levada, showed Mr. Putin’s approval rating hitting 83 percent, up from 69 percent in January. Eighty-one percent said they supported the war, describing the need to protect Russian speakers as its primary justification.”

Sorry, boy. You are part of the 10% of Russians who supports West point of view. Since in statistics we cannot use only one person as a sample, we can say that Russians are backing the war. So yes, Russians don’t accept West point of view. And we are talking about an independent pollster btw. Before we start discussing what is propaganda and what is not lol.
 

Kopanja

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
5,596
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/01/world/europe/russia-putin-support-ukraine.html

“The public’s endorsement of the war lacks the patriotic groundswell that greeted the annexation of Crimea in 2014. But polls released this week by Russia’s most respected independent pollster, Levada, showed Mr. Putin’s approval rating hitting 83 percent, up from 69 percent in January. Eighty-one percent said they supported the war, describing the need to protect Russian speakers as its primary justification.”

Sorry, boy. You are part of the 10% of Russians who supports West point of view. Since in statistics we cannot use only one person as a sample, we can say that Russians are backing the war. So yes, Russians don’t accept West point of view. And we are talking about an independent pollster btw. Before we start discussing what is propaganda and what is not lol.
Aren't you like in university?
 
Jul 7, 2018
503
I don't know who you are referring to when saying "you people" since I don't know if I've ever discussed something with you, but thanks for including me in the group anyway! It's always nice to feel welcome.
It's less nice to be told I have nothing better to do with my life though. That really hurts. :cry:

But to end on a positive note: thanks for all your economic insight. It's truly very remarkable & there's really no way I could have come up with it myself. I don't even know how I survived without it in the past.
Too much text, make sarcasm shorter or it ends being boring for both of us!

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Aren't you like in university?
Should I have used neutral gender pronouns? :scared:
 

radekas

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Aug 26, 2009
20,200
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/01/world/europe/russia-putin-support-ukraine.html

Sorry, boy. You are part of the 10% of Russians who supports West point of view. Since in statistics we cannot use only one person as a sample, we can say that Russians are backing the war. So yes, Russians don’t accept West point of view. And we are talking about an independent pollster btw. Before we start discussing what is propaganda and what is not lol.
And that's new since when? It was already discussed here how and why russians support it. Your idea that west will never understand russians has one basic flaw. The current "west" includes countries that have been in the soviet block like my Poland. And you can be sure that we fully understand the russian point of view, because it has been fed to us for decades if not centuries. It doesn't mean that it somehow magically makes any fucking sense. Russian are russians and have been the same russians since at least the XVI century. The only thing that changes are the tsars and their official titles.
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/01/world/europe/russia-putin-support-ukraine.html

“The public’s endorsement of the war lacks the patriotic groundswell that greeted the annexation of Crimea in 2014. But polls released this week by Russia’s most respected independent pollster, Levada, showed Mr. Putin’s approval rating hitting 83 percent, up from 69 percent in January. Eighty-one percent said they supported the war, describing the need to protect Russian speakers as its primary justification.”

Sorry, boy. You are part of the 10% of Russians who supports West point of view. Since in statistics we cannot use only one person as a sample, we can say that Russians are backing the war. So yes, Russians don’t accept West point of view. And we are talking about an independent pollster btw. Before we start discussing what is propaganda and what is not lol.
It's fake numbers, how you can't understand simple things about Russia, it's total autocracy, people don't answer those type of questions, and how does they are scared to say something against Putin

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Why they don't post the information about how many people REFUSED to answer? Real Dummy
 
Jul 7, 2018
503
And that's new since when? It was already discussed here how and why russians support it. Your idea that west will never understand russians has one basic flaw. The current "west" includes countries that have been in the soviet block like my Poland. And you can be sure that we fully understand the russian point of view, because it has been fed to us for decades if not centuries. It doesn't mean that it somehow magically makes any fucking sense. Russian are russians and have been the same russians since at least the XVI century. The only thing that changes are the tsars and their official titles.
I’m not discussing this. I’m literally saying that there is no need of discussing it so we are trying to discuss the consequences of the war and of economic measures taken by Russia. But since many of you want to discuss and insult, i’m on the need of reaffirming what was already affirmed. If I said that the Russians are not accepting West views (therefore, backing the war) and a guy comes and tell me that I am the dumb of the week, well then I have to post again that Russians are backing the war lol

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It's fake numbers, how you can't understand simple things about Russia, it's total autocracy, people don't answer those type of questions, and how does they are scared to say something against Putin

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Why they don't post the information about how many people REFUSED to answer? Real Dummy
Ask the New York Times, not me

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Oh, wow, you are even a worse case than I thought. I hope for your sake someone will provide you with puscifers remedy asap. Otherwise, you might grow into a complete moron.
Sorry, she/he. I won’t hurt your feelings again.
 

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