Rules re: insulting loaned/co-owned players (26 Viewers)
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It's now spread to the Verratti and Ramirez vs. Giovinco thread.
Here's the thing. People come here for the Juventus connection, but also to 'socialize', to connect with others. So you get these little cliques surrounding some of the popular members here, and obviously they reinforce each other. Some positive feedback, a few +reps here and there, people see this, and figure it's a way to hop on, and make some virtual friends, to be internet popular, or whatever you want to call it.
So I'm not surprised when the spam starts to proliferate, and infest a bunch of the threads. Pack mentality, nothing new; when the resource or outlet is exhausted (or locked), the pack moves on to new territory. They're looking for a reaction, it's exactly what they want. Attention.
Trolling can be legitimately funny when it's actually clever, and not excessively mean spirited, but this simple Fuck Giovinco shit is just so monotonous, and frankly I'm also tired of what seems like a bunch of Juventini logging on just so they can tell each other to go fuck themselves because they have a different opinion on a player who just finished a very good season, and who we own half of.
Anyway, gotta get back to work.
And someone took the trouble of deleting my attachment with his Barbara Berlusconi wig. 
It's called summer, Graham. When the season is over, the lunacy comes out. Happens every season.
I think we have a war of escalation. The more people shower Giovinco with Giovi-luv, the more the "fuck midget Giovinco"s come out, which in turns breeds more Giovi-luv, etc. The cycle escalates and continues to where it's now like a comedy: we've got people spewing hate on a player who has been done wrong by the club in the past and has proven himself to be good and capable, and we have other people burying their head in the sand about their beloved Giovinco showing entitlement greater than even Miccoli in his worst days and "wearing his AC Milan socks" as much as Balotelli did at Inter.
We're well beyond the point of people listening and more to becoming more polarized caricatures of a one-sided truth.
It's called summer, Graham. When the season is over, the lunacy comes out. Happens every season.
I think we have a war of escalation. The more people shower Giovinco with Giovi-luv, the more the "fuck midget Giovinco"s come out, which in turns breeds more Giovi-luv, etc. The cycle escalates and continues to where it's now like a comedy: we've got people spewing hate on a player who has been done wrong by the club in the past and has proven himself to be good and capable, and we have other people burying their head in the sand about their beloved Giovinco showing entitlement greater than even Miccoli in his worst days and "wearing his AC Milan socks" as much as Balotelli did at Inter.
We're well beyond the point of people listening and more to becoming more polarized caricatures of a one-sided truth.
I really wonder sometimes if some people here truly log into this forum to discuss anything at all, or simply content with spam, doesnt matter what the current fad is, but the spam itself is so mindless. Its fed by getting reactions from some (at times Hustini, now Sheik, makes it easy for them), but its mindbogging to read half a dozen pages of juvenile spam (its stopped being harmless silly jokes long time ago when the frequency of it increased by tenfold), its annoying at first but I can just keep clicking past, the mindbogigng bit is the persistence of actually just keep on spamming, whats entertaining about it?
However biased or uninformed, I actually prefer someone given their reasons of why they dislike a player or a team or whatever, but flat out spamming same petty lines ad infinitum? Its gotten to the point where THE worst illogical Cronios post of all time is infinitely better to read then pages of such spam.
Poll is about something as silly wether one should be allowed to insult a player or not if he is contracted to Juve in any capacity, never really liked the notion of such a rule, though I get it, but in general find it silly giving infractions for sharing simply frustration or negative views expressed with some unkind words now and then, like its such a big deal (I gotten a few back in Ranieri days), aslong its not overdone it should be fine IMO. What a mod should really be asking himself better is what constitutes spamming and when is it time to nib it in ze butt. If group of posters simply post the same stupid lines EVERY day nonstop, effectively derailing and making it hard to discuss anything in said thread, then wether its allowed to keep spamming in that thread is the better question, then if he is a Juve player or not.
However biased or uninformed, I actually prefer someone given their reasons of why they dislike a player or a team or whatever, but flat out spamming same petty lines ad infinitum? Its gotten to the point where THE worst illogical Cronios post of all time is infinitely better to read then pages of such spam.
Poll is about something as silly wether one should be allowed to insult a player or not if he is contracted to Juve in any capacity, never really liked the notion of such a rule, though I get it, but in general find it silly giving infractions for sharing simply frustration or negative views expressed with some unkind words now and then, like its such a big deal (I gotten a few back in Ranieri days
), aslong its not overdone it should be fine IMO. What a mod should really be asking himself better is what constitutes spamming and when is it time to nib it in ze butt. If group of posters simply post the same stupid lines EVERY day nonstop, effectively derailing and making it hard to discuss anything in said thread, then wether its allowed to keep spamming in that thread is the better question, then if he is a Juve player or not.
Well I actually read what Osman wrote.
One of many problems with that approach, Osman, is you open up enforcement even more up to interpretation than it is already. If you think mod enforcement is inconsistent now about members insulting each other and insulting players, it will be even more inconsistent if we added the caveat "it's allowed until it becomes 'spammy'".
One of many problems with that approach, Osman, is you open up enforcement even more up to interpretation than it is already. If you think mod enforcement is inconsistent now about members insulting each other and insulting players, it will be even more inconsistent if we added the caveat "it's allowed until it becomes 'spammy'".
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