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s4tch

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Tbh I like it just I liked the other singles. I think this guy finally realized he has a shot of going from a fairly known artist and respected, in the right circles, producer to a somewhat mainstream artist (One of his new songs was in the Spotify's weekly top 40) and one of the most respected producers of today.

It happens when you're 25+ years in pretty much obscurity even though you're putting out work like no one else around. Dude's tired. He's done it all.

20+ min progressive/psychedelic pieces, dozens of concept albums with complex music. Has done everything the metal genre, in it's progressive form, has to offer... Enough was enough. He now opened his arms to Spotify and the idea of streaming music... Hell, he even has a profile there where he makes weekly playlist which btw are usually very good ones.

So honestly? I'm really glad he took this Tear For Fears/ 80's Genesis path this time. Whatever he was doing before to me had saturated a while ago. This is refreshing and taking his music to unknown places, at least regarding his career...
now that the whole album is out, what's your take on this path he took recently?

i listened to the whole album a couple of times on tidal. wilson is usually hard to judge. this time he simplified his songs. he's one of my favorite musicians of the last decade or so, but i simply find this record boring. (in wilson standards, of course - it's still nice to listen to it.)
 

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    now that the whole album is out, what's your take on this path he took recently?

    i listened to the whole album a couple of times on tidal. wilson is usually hard to judge. this time he simplified his songs. he's one of my favorite musicians of the last decade or so, but i simply find this record boring. (in wilson standards, of course - it's still nice to listen to it.)
    I find it pretty solid. Nothing really new to music or groundbreaking but then that wasn't my expectation.

    Soundwise it's sonically beautiful. He's a fantastic producer and his mixes are always so alive and clean.

    Overall, it's something nice to have other than that metal stuff he's been into for the longest time.

    But I'd like to add that it cant be compared to what influenced him on this record; Tears for Fears, Prince, Kate Bush, ABBA.... his goal was to make something at that level, unfortunately he's not as good a composer as those artists were. What he calls "sophisticated pop", it really doesn't even scratch the surface of the creativeness those guys were all about.
     

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    But I'd like to add that it cant be compared to what influenced him on this record; Tears for Fears, Prince, Kate Bush, ABBA.... his goal was to make something at that level, unfortunately he's not as good a composer as those artists were. What he calls "sophisticated pop", it really doesn't even scratch the surface of the creativeness those guys were all about.
    :tup:

    i agree on the sound, too. recently i purchased some good sounding portable gear and these wilson records are among the best mixed and recorded materials of the loudness war years.
     

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    nice led zep song, and glenn hughes' voice is simply :delpiero:
    Wait a minute.

    They're back??? :tuttosport: :tuttosport:

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    I find it pretty solid. Nothing really new to music or groundbreaking but then that wasn't my expectation.

    Soundwise it's sonically beautiful. He's a fantastic producer and his mixes are always so alive and clean.

    Overall, it's something nice to have other than that metal stuff he's been into for the longest time.

    But I'd like to add that it cant be compared to what influenced him on this record; Tears for Fears, Prince, Kate Bush, ABBA.... his goal was to make something at that level, unfortunately he's not as good a composer as those artists were. What he calls "sophisticated pop", it really doesn't even scratch the surface of the creativeness those guys were all about.

    Benny and Bjorn. Incredibly underrated songwriters

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    Oh shit, and today is Glenn's 66th birthday.


    Happy birthday you majestic beast.

    Now don't laugh, but I'd like to share with you one of my favorite songs that he sang on.


    Now don't laugh.


    Please.


     

    s4tch

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    Wait a minute.

    They're back??? :tuttosport: :tuttosport:
    quite an unexpected development, just a couple of years after they were 'definitely over', isn't it? :tuttosport: i absolutely loved their first 2 records. hughes is arguably one of the the best rock singers alive.

    have you (and @CrimsonianKing) already crossed this band?


    i can't tell if they are legit or just an interesting ripoff, but man, do they sound like a carbon copy of led zep.
     

    ZoSo

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    quite an unexpected development, just a couple of years after they were 'definitely over', isn't it? :tuttosport: i absolutely loved their first 2 records. hughes is arguably one of the the best rock singers alive.

    have you (and @CrimsonianKing) already crossed this band?


    i can't tell if they are legit or just an interesting ripoff, but man, do they sound like a carbon copy of led zep.
    needs drugs
     
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    quite an unexpected development, just a couple of years after they were 'definitely over', isn't it? :tuttosport: i absolutely loved their first 2 records. hughes is arguably one of the the best rock singers alive.

    have you (and @CrimsonianKing) already crossed this band?


    i can't tell if they are legit or just an interesting ripoff, but man, do they sound like a carbon copy of led zep.
    Definitely a rip off.
     

    ZoSo

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    that's what makes bands like soundgarden cool, they have way more than one or two influences even though they can sound a bit like zeppelin or whoever at times
     
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    @s4tch Steven Wilson topping the charts in the U.K. :D who'd have expected it, huh?

    The guy deserves it. Don't know anyone that puts as much effort and releases as much music as him. It finally paid off.

    Ps: he was on BBC breakfast today, then the first question asked was "what's Prog rock?" :lol:
     

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    that's what makes bands like soundgarden cool, they have way more than one or two influences even though they can sound a bit like zeppelin or whoever at times
    then again they're an up and coming band that's just starting out, just released their first ep, sounds very promising
     

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    @s4tch Steven Wilson topping the charts in the U.K. :D who'd have expected it, huh?

    The guy deserves it. Don't know anyone that puts as much effort and releases as much music as him. It finally paid off.

    Ps: he was on BBC breakfast today, then the first question asked was "what's Prog rock?" :lol:
    :D and he's not even a hit song writer.

    not bad, i'm happy for him.
     
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    :D and he's not even a hit song writer.

    not bad, i'm happy for him.
    Prog rock revival incoming?? :shifty:

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    then again they're an up and coming band that's just starting out, just released their first ep, sounds very promising
    Don't get me wrong, the band is pretty good. The kids know their shit.

    But imo you could only go so far as to impersonate something, they're blatantly copying Zeppelin.

    BUT on the other hand, Zepellin blatantly ripped off songs from old blues artists when they started, so fuck it. It comes full circle.
     

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    Prog rock revival incoming?? :shifty:

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    Don't get me wrong, the band is pretty good. The kids know their shit.

    But imo you could only go so far as to impersonate something, they're blatantly copying Zeppelin.

    BUT on the other hand, Zepellin blatantly ripped off songs from old blues artists when they started, so fuck it. It comes full circle.
    I liketo follow rock music that comes out in 2017, these guys are one of my favorites from the young bannds along with Highly Suspect and Goodbye June, not a lot of good young rock bands out there at moment, mostly the vocalists and song writers nowadays have a terrible idea on what their musiic should sound like
     

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    damn :D

    btw i quite like the new record. not his best work, and "permanating" must be the weakest song on the album, still, it's a great listen. pariah is simply beautiful, ninet tayeb should sing every song in the world. i either listen to this, or the new leprous recently.

    have you read his recent statements about porcupine tree btw?
    https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/new...steven_wilson_why_i_ended_porcupine_tree.html
    Yes I did read it. I figured that was the reason but let's be honest here, in the end it's about money too.

    I'm really happy for him though, and I'm hoping this somehow makes a dent at the contemporary music scene in terms of bringing creative and without boundaries music back to the mainstream. Generic pop has gone as far as it can go I hope.
     

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