Robin Van Persie - Forward - Arsenal (11 Viewers)

[juve901]

Jovetic is 22.

Every transfer has a risk, but a different kind of risk. In Van Persie's case you have a history of repetitive injuries, season after season. It's like buying Pato. Actually, even worse because Pato is still young and he might get over the injuries one day. We'll be asking for trouble if we sign RVP on huge wages.

Wait. Jovetic also has had injury after injury. Actually, he's comparable to Pato. Before Jojo's big injury, he was having constant and repetitive injuries. He'd play for a bit, get injured, be out. Return. Play for a bit, get injured, be out. I'm confused because some are talking as if Jovetic only had one significant injury, but if you have followed the player throughout his career at Fiorentina, he's had many injuries very close to the scale of Pato.

Only last season (like RvP) was he not injured throughout the campaign. Yes he's younger, but he's injury-prone. However, that's not a reason to not invest in him and bring him over to Juve. But let's clarify that Jovetic has had many injuries big and small already at the age of 22. Jojo and RvP are injury-prone players who are top quality - we could do well with both - but we need to get the one who serves the position that warrants the most attention right now.

 

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[Alen]

You can't put Higuain in the same category with Jovetic. Higuain is a world class striker, young enough and a goal scorer. I prefer him to RVP any day. Between van Persie and Jovetic, there is absolutely no doubt who the better and more proven player is. To compete in Europe, we need players of such status.

Milan needed them too last year, but they were injured. And it really didn't come as a surprise to see that Pato, Nesta and Aquilani were injured when Milan needed them in the scudetto race or in Europe.

We aren't City or PSG. These decisions will create our future. One mistake puts us back by a couple of years, as it happened when we splashed 50m on two players in 2009. Now, you can think that Jovetic would be such a mistake, and it's fine, but there is a huge risk that RVP will be a mistake, a huge one. Not because of his undeniable quality, but because of everything else. He has an incredible injury record and (imo) if he comes to Italy he'll do it only to sign his last big cheque and finish his career in an inferior league (his words that EPL is superior).

And I personally think that Jovetic will be a better player than RVP ever was or will be. He's an incredible talent and already a big player at 22. He is a chance that one simply shouldn't miss. Signing RVP instead of Jovetic now is like signing Klinsmann instead of Del Piero in 1993.

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Wait. Jovetic also has had injury after injury. Actually, he's comparable to Pato. Before Jojo's big injury, he was having constant and repetitive injuries. He'd play for a bit, get injured, be out. Return. Play for a bit, get injured, be out. I'm confused because you're talking as if Jovetic only had one significant injury, but if you have followed the player throughout his career at Fiorentina, he's had many injuries very close to the scale of Pato.

Only last season (like RvP) was he not injured throughout the campaign. Yes he's younger, but he's injury-prone. However, that's not a reason to not invest in him and bring him over to Juve. But let's clarify that Jovetic has had many injuries big and small already at the age of 22. Jojo and RvP are injury-prone players who are top quality - we could do well with both - but we need to get the one who serves the position that warrants the most attention right now.

Out of 91 matches that Fiorentina played before his injury, he played on 72 and was an unused substitute on 11. He only missed 8 matches in two seasons due to injury.

 

[Klin]

Milan needed them too last year, but they were injured. And it really didn't come as a surprise to see that Pato, Nesta and Aquilani were injured when Milan needed them in the scudetto race or in Europe.

We aren't City or PSG. These decisions will create our future. One mistake puts us back by a couple of years, as it happened when we splashed 50m on two players in 2009. Now, you can think that Jovetic would be such a mistake, and it's fine, but there is a huge risk that RVP will be a mistake, a huge one. Not because of his undeniable quality, but because of everything else. He has an incredible injury record and (imo) if he comes to Italy he'll do it only to sign his last big cheque and finish his career in an inferior league (his words that EPL is superior).

And I personally think that Jovetic will be a better player than RVP ever was or will be. He's an incredible talent and already a big player at 22. He is a chance that one simply shouldn't miss. Signing RVP instead of Jovetic now is like signing Klinsmann instead of Del Piero in 1993.

Do you think Juventus is ready to give Jovetic time to develop him into your typical CF, or do you think Mirko will do the job for us this season and then we'd think about replacing Mirko with a true finisher the next season?

And for the record, I would've done great with Juve.

 

[Alen]

Do you think Juventus is ready to give Jovetic time to develop him into your typical CF, or do you think Mirko will do the job for us this season and then we'd think about replacing Mirko with a true finisher the next season?

And for the record, I would've done great with Juve.

If we plan to play Jovetic as a CF, then we better not buy him at all.

 

[Klin]

If we plan to play Jovetic as a CF, then we better not buy him at all.

And do you think that would work with the inconsistent Mirko instead? Or shall we plan to depend on our midfielders to save us again next season?

 

[Klovn]

Which is not ridiculous at all. RVP is older and demands higher wages. I still prefer him to Joveric though because he's a proven world class CF Juve will need skills and experience of competing in Europe.

True, and Juve needs a finisher. Not a dribbler like Jovetic.

 

[Klin]

True, and Juve needs a finisher. Not a fancy dribbler like Jovetic.

 

[juve901]

If we got Jovetic, Vuc could move to CF -- at Roma Ranieri moved him to that position for a while and Vuc was putting the ball in the back of the net. Also, I thought I read somewhere that Vuc prefers the CF position. Anybody else recall something like that?

 

[king Ale]

Milan needed them too last year, but they were injured. And it really didn't come as a surprise to see that Pato, Nesta and Aquilani were injured when Milan needed them in the scudetto race or in Europe.

We aren't City or PSG. These decisions will create our future. One mistake puts us back by a couple of years, as it happened when we splashed 50m on two players in 2009. Now, you can think that Jovetic would be such a mistake, and it's fine, but there is a huge risk that RVP will be a mistake, a huge one. Not because of his undeniable quality, but because of everything else. He has an incredible injury record and (imo) if he comes to Italy he'll do it only to sign his last big cheque and finish his career in an inferior league (his words that EPL is superior).

And I personally think that Jovetic will be a better player than RVP ever was or will be. He's an incredible talent and already a big player at 22. He is a chance that one simply shouldn't miss. Signing RVP instead of Jovetic now is like signing Klinsmann instead of Del Piero in 1993.

All other big teams seem to be missing on him then

And no, we didn't pay 30m to sign Alex so this comparison is basically false. Signing Alex was no gamble, it could turn to be a mistake but it was never going to be a risky decision. Juve are going to have to pay big money for a 22 yo player who's had a big injury as well as a few minor ones AND no other club seems too keen on signing this star player your are making him to be. He's talented but unproven. Would be lovely to have him in the team to cover the SS role but what Juve need most at the moment is a goalscorer. Cavani, Falcao, Higuain or van Persie. Juve could look for better support strikers in the next years. They will have fixed the goal scoring problem by then and finding a support striker is always easier than finding a goal poacher.

 

[Klin]

If we got Jovetic, Vuc could move to CF -- at Roma Ranieri moved him to that position for a while and Vuc was putting the ball in the back of the net. Also, I thought I read somewhere that Vuc prefers the CF position. Anybody else recall something like that?

He's too inconsistent to be deployed as a CF as you can't expect him to score goals week in week out for you.

 

[alexjuventino]

Well Quags isnt realiable and yet its seems like we are going to keep and use him as our main cf

 

[Cheesio]

RVP is tailor made for this Juve team, great with the ball, moves well without it and a great goal scorer.

Only Cavani could be a better choice, but RVP is more proven and more complete striker;

 

[jukazem]

We aren't City or PSG. These decisions will create our future. One mistake puts us back by a couple of years, as it happened when we splashed 50m on two players in 2009. Now, you can think that Jovetic would be such a mistake, and it's fine, but there is a huge risk that RVP will be a mistake, a huge one. Not because of his undeniable quality, but because of everything else. He has an incredible injury record and (imo) if he comes to Italy he'll do it only to sign his last big cheque and finish his career in an inferior league (his words that EPL is superior).

And I personally think that Jovetic will be a better player than RVP ever was or will be. He's an incredible talent and already a big player at 22. He is a chance that one simply shouldn't miss. Signing RVP instead of Jovetic now is like signing Klinsmann instead of Del Piero in 1993.

Consider Robin Van Persie's price now if he wasn't on the last year of his contract, surely €30 million+ (~ £24 million). If RVP flops here, you don't think we can sell him back to his proven league (EPL) for atleast €20 million (~ £16 million).

 

[Lion]

He's too inconsistent to be deployed as a CF as you can't expect him to score goals week in week out for you.

wonder how juve would do with roma's no striker formation.

 

[juve901]

RVP is tailor made for this Juve team, great with the ball, moves well without it and a great goal scorer.

Only Cavani could be a better choice, but RVP is more proven and more complete striker;

totally agree.

 

[Klin]

wonder how juve would do with roma's no striker formation.

I wish we'll never have to find out.

 

[alexjuventino]

would you have Quags or vucinic as our Cf?

 

[Trequartista]

if it was up to him he'd sell Juventus Stadium to finance our mercato, can't be taken seriously.

So true

 

[Adzke]

RVP is tailor made for this Juve team, great with the ball, moves well without it and a great goal scorer.

Only Cavani could be a better choice, but RVP is more proven and more complete striker;

Also, RvP has a wicked long shot which could certainly come in handy against those provinciale sides who dig in deep against us. He would represent a danger not just inside the box but a long way from it aswell.

Jovetic is a dream to me. He has all the potential in the world, but he may not be what we need as of 2012.

RvP is the sure thing right now, and that is propably what Juve need.

EDIT: Ha! Just realised from my avatar how long I how been away from these forums. Good to be back, though.

 

[Ahmed]

Di Marzio saying we have agreed terms with him, now up to the clubs to find an agreement.