Roberto Pereyra (10 Viewers)

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,988
50 mil lol add all the wages and people still tell me we can not sign one quality player. Of course we can not cause we are wasting all of our money on mediocre players. But we needed all that depth , and yet we can make a total of 2 subs each game. Morata for llorente and peyrera for vidal that's it... We have absolutely no options on the bench and none that will actually make an impact
Yup.

Thats the problem too. Its good to have depth... but when our main players are failing, the depth is not up to the task to lift us in a game.
They can be pf depth in Serie A... but after yesterday´s game.. even that is at doubt.

I dont know what the board will do... but we are reaching a point where our main players are underperforming,,and our supposed depth too. We need better benchplayers, or players in the line of Moratta who can at least add something different. But players like Pereyra are a surplus if they do not perform.

On the other hand..we also need to urgently find a solution to our ageing starters, Way too many.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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The entire summer was a summer of fail from Allegri to Evra to Morata (the most $#@!ed up deal throughout history) to Pereyra and ending my Romulo, an injured player that is not likely to recover. But no, Marotta makes no mistakes, he does everything right.
I can understand the rationale of the purchases however they have so far largely flopped or added very little. Evra as a short term cover for Asamoah, Pereyra as a young utility player with some potential and Morata as a young player with a lot of potential... all for little money on a small budget. Our attackers are in their 30s on short contracts while our midfield risks an injury to a very old Pirlo, or the sale of either Pogba or Vidal so again Pereyra's profile isnt very bad. I have to admit that I didnt expect them all to be misses like that and Allegri seems to be struggling to get Morata and Llorente to play to their potential.

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Yea judge a player on 20mins a game. Yet Morata has scored the same amount of goals as Llorente in significantly less time.
Llorente hasnt been on fire either. The fact that he has been that bad and still keeps morata on the bench means that either the youngster hasnt shown enough in his opportunities and in training to merit a start OR Allegri is at fault for not playing him despite his abilities. You cant defend both Allegri or Morata: at least one of them has to be at fault for his flopping.

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Neither is Pogba and apparently Coman as well or Allegri would have try him there already. Bottom line is we don't have one.
Or one or more of them is good but Allegri is not doing his job properly. You lot cant defend both Allegri and our benched players that you think would do better than the starters.
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,036
what role is that then? because he can't tackle, can't read the game well enough to intercept a pass, never mind trying to be creative and trying to shoot because we've established he can't do that neither so my question to you is, what does he actually do well in? because up until now I've seen very little to suggest he's worth what marotta has stupidly agreed to pay udinese

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basically he can't do anything, we just bought ourselves another almiron
I remember years of debating before the same lines were overall denied about Marchisio. You don't have to exactly stand out in a part to be a decent/good player. He has a good technique, passing ability, speed and directness in his game, but he ain't no CAM for sure. Still searching his best spot in this team, partly because it's a complete misfit seeing the direction we're probably headed towards.

We need and still need either width or a playmaker, not another makeshift CM with a bit more attacking intentions...
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Evra was brought as cover for Asamoah. Now Asamoah is hurt and suddenly Evra is Molinaro or Peluso all over again.

Pereyra was brough as cover for a CM or wings for the 352 which we thankfully changed, now he needs to find a role that either suits him or gets the best out of him which isnt an AM. He is necessary to come in as fresh legs and not do anything stupid. He has room to grow.

Morata came because he has a lot of potential and anyone that denies that probably is against Marotta so that rationale is predictable from those select few. Llorente was meant to be the starter but his fall from grace is going to make people even more critical of Morata because spoiled fans expect the world in an instant. That kind of thinking is unfair.

Romulo was also brough as CM and wing cover. Unlucky to get an injury but he demonstrated potential and did well when he was able to play. Licht and Asa needed backups to rest their legs which is where Evra, Romulo and Pereyra came in. Then we changed formation, which we all agree was needed, and a few unlucky injuries have members here asking for Marottas head in a public square.

Evra has gotten better, getting used to a new league takes some time and we are seeing better performances. Pereyra shows sparks but his finishing needs work but nothing to get the criticism he is getting.

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So far this season we have had the following injuries:

-Pirlo (Marchisio stepped in)
-Vidal (Again, Marchisio and also Pereyra and I think even Romulo)
-Barzagli (Ogbonna and Caceres before his injury)
-Caceres (Ogbonna again)
-Asamoah (Evra)

As much as this will make people grind their teeth, thank GOD for depth.

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And despite peoples constant bitching, we still have the best defensive record in Italy, stand first in the standings, and made it out of the group standings. :tup:
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,988
True. But the start-half, doesn't promise much.I want to be wrong .
Wil be tought to be wrong on this one unless he starts banging all those missed chances. I dont have anything against him.. but for a player of his quality..we are clearly overpaying for about 100% of what he is delivering to us in exchange. Summary, we got robbed for now.

if i was not clear, what i mean is that based on his performances, we should have paid half of what we are currently paying ...or so.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
Wil be tought to be wrong on this one unless he starts banging all those missed chances. I dont have anything against him.. but for a player of his quality..we are clearly overpaying for about 100% of what he is delivering to us in exchange. Summary, we got robbed for now.

if i was not clear, what i mean is that based on his performances, we should have paid half of what we are currently paying ...or so.
Exactly .....,not to say even less,but okay ,let's say a half.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
69,014
I remember years of debating before the same lines were overall denied about Marchisio. You don't have to exactly stand out in a part to be a decent/good player. He has a good technique, passing ability, speed and directness in his game, but he ain't no CAM for sure. Still searching his best spot in this team, partly because it's a complete misfit seeing the direction we're probably headed towards.

We need and still need either width or a playmaker, not another makeshift CM with a bit more attacking intentions...
what you're trying to say is we bought an expensive utility player. his passing ability and technique can't be that good if he only has 1 assist to his name and yet somehow lost the ball 6 times since coming on as a sub last night, as for speed i'm not even sure he has that if he can't even keep up with de guzman
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,988
yes. thats the problem. he is a way too expensive utility player.

He seems to be agile with the ball at his feet and can do some dribbles, but his end product is very lacking. Thats the major downfall of Pereyra. For 8 mils or so it would be OK and i would have absolutely no problems with it because we need squad players too.... but for current numbers, is not ok.
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
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what you're trying to say is we bought an expensive utility player. his passing ability and technique can't be that good if he only has 1 assist to his name and yet somehow lost the ball 6 times since coming on as a sub last night, as for speed i'm not even sure he has that if he can't even keep up with de guzman
Of course he can keep up with De Guzman, thing is you focus on stats who say shit (for instance against Malmö he rolled a ball across an empty goal and Morata missed from about half a metre out. No assist given). Even more so for a substitute and a few actions here and there instead of the bigger picture. He's brought immediate input in several games.

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Like Hustini says it's important to point out he was brought for a role which we don't have anymore after switching away from the 3-5-2. Our team is suffering from the switch as a whole, many misfits there. Switching coaches that late has consequences...
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
69,014
yes. thats the problem. he is a way too expensive utility player.

He seems to be agile with the ball at his feet and can do some dribbles, but his end product is very lacking. Thats the major downfall of Pereyra. For 8 mils or so it would be OK and i would have absolutely no problems with it because we need squad players too.... but for current numbers, is not ok.
tbh we might as well have kept Giaccherini, at least he had more of an end product
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Like Hustini says it's important to point out he was brought for a role which we don't have anymore after switching away from the 3-5-2. Our team is suffering from the switch as a whole, many misfits there. Switching coaches that late has consequences...
:tup:
 

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