Real Madrid bid 70 mil Euro for Zlatan (14 Viewers)

Desmond

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
8,938
Moggi's a smart man,if Real would offer 70m without us asking no doubt the price could be jacked up.

Zidane didn't immediately leave when Real were linked to him either.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
100mil? hmmm

(considering the amounts asked so far, we have)

53 to gila
20+nonda+blasi to cassano
27+appiah+tudor to gerrard(if pool doesnt win the CL)
Treze\DP to vieira

cassano gila

neddy gerrard vieira camo !!!!!!!!!

I would prefer this than just a str8 deal like,
15-20 mil for emerson (wich is very probably these days)

On the other hand:
milan said no for sheva at 120mil
inter no for adriano at 100mil
and we will sell zlatan only for 70?
16mil product at 70mil seems a good deal esp when we can replace it with double great quality (gila+cassano), with the same future prospect and further enhange our team,
no player cost as two
(its better to sell them,
than the irreplacable zambro and buffon,
as there is no other player in the world who might replace them)
 

- vOnAm -

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2004
3,779
Uncertainty is the biggest COST of them all...

y sell Zlatan to get both Cassano and Gilardino? We might not even get both, and even if we do they might not play as well.

Zlatan is not a 16mill product, just cos we bought him for that price doesnt mean thats how much he's worth.

Zlatan IMO is more rare than Buffon or Zambrotta. A big guy with great footwork and creativity, u cant find that anywhere.

Buffon can be replaced with Cech, or Casillas. Although I rate the two below Buffon, i think they would do considerably well as Goalkeeper.

And like I said before, if he's worth this much after 1 season he can be worth more after he has reached his peak, so in business terms it would be good to keep him as well.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Too many ifs and buts. Let him go when we've not yet based the foundations of our team around him. He's a fantastic player, but i think if we can find even a half decent replacement (which we can in Cassano or Gila), with a well bolstered midfield, we'd be more complete than we are now with Zlatan in the squad.


PS: Zambrotta is a proven performer year in and year out. He plays in one of the most precarious positions on the pitch. And imo, if we dont have someone of his class to sustain our squad, not even two Zlatans in the squad will be able to help us cope.
 

- vOnAm -

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2004
3,779
I didnt say Zambrotta is not important just saying that a player like Zlatan is even more rare, I think we can have a player at LB who can play better defense, it is hard to find a player with such versatility that u can put him anywhere on the pitch but its also hard to find a big skillful forward.
 

Desmond

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
8,938
++ [ originally posted by Desmond ] ++
We sold Zidane off and were better off for it.Sure,at the start everyone was sore about it and said things like how we'd flop and that our time was over etc.But in exchange we got Nedved, Buffon, Thuram and Salas.With the exception of Marcelo,we dramatically improved the squad in every department and the following seasons we were named second favourites to win CL behind only Real.

In comparison this team is less dependent on Zlatan than it was on Zidane,and unlike Zidane's case we do have a replacement in the shape of Mutu.It's a risk,no doubt.But wasn't Zidane's sale a risk too,and a bigger one at that?

Zlatan's season has been less spectacular than many imagine and isn't the best youngster in the world,contrary to popular belief.Fortunately for us,Real don't know that either.So I say we go for the 70m and let Moggi do what he's always done.

Does anyone believe Zlatan's brilliant season is a better precedent for success than the trophies we've won from selling our star players in the past decade?
 
May 30, 2004
2,578
++ [ originally posted by Cronios ] ++
100mil? hmmm

(considering the amounts asked so far, we have)

53 to gila
20+nonda+blasi to cassano
27+appiah+tudor to gerrard(if pool doesnt win the CL)
Treze\DP to vieira

cassano gila

neddy gerrard vieira camo !!!!!!!!!

I would prefer this than just a str8 deal like,
15-20 mil for emerson (wich is very probably these days)

On the other hand:
milan said no for sheva at 120mil
inter no for adriano at 100mil
and we will sell zlatan only for 70?
16mil product at 70mil seems a good deal esp when we can replace it with double great quality (gila+cassano), with the same future prospect and further enhange our team,
no player cost as two
(its better to sell them,
than the irreplacable zambro and buffon,
as there is no other player in the world who might replace them)

wake up from that UGLY dream of yours ... u ve deformed the juve squad be reasonable
 

- vOnAm -

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2004
3,779
Like I said before, the star players before were sold due partly also because they have either reached their peak or are going to pass it.

Zidane was sold when we thought that he would be going to lose his form after 2-3 years thus it was the ideal point to sell him because that would be the most money we can make out of him before his value declines again (also due to age).

Zlatan on the other hand is still in his developing stages and is not near his full capabilities.

I also said btw that we probably WILL sell him in the future probably for a bigger amount but not now.
 

ZhiXin

Senior Member
Oct 1, 2004
10,321
Ibra & Emo staying, insist Juve Monday 23 May, 2005

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Italian champions Juventus have warned Real Madrid to forget about making bids for Emerson and Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

Both players have been linked with moves to the Spanish giants but the Bianconeri insist they will not be sacrificed at any price.

"Turin is not a good place to come and try to strengthen your team," transfer guru Luciano Moggi stated.

"There are no problems with Zlatan or Emerson. They have no desire to leave and they will stay with us."

Real apparently made a £48m bid for the Swede last week, while the Spanish media are convinced that the Brazilian wants a move to La Liga.

"I couldn’t care less about Real," responded Emerson. "I am a Juventus player and I will stay here.

"There really isn’t anything more that I can say," added the summer signing from Roma. "I have a contract with this club and I intend to respect it."

Moggi has also rubbished rumours suggesting that boss Fabio Capello could leave the Delle Alpi after just one year in charge.

"Capello will definitely remain," he stated after the club won their 28th Italian championship. "We wanted him to take us into the future and that is what will occur."

However, the Bianconeri official did confirm that the club would be making squad changes even if no drastic amendments.

"We’ll see but I don’t think we have that many problems to resolve," he stated. "After all, we have the best defensive record in the League and one of the best attacks.

"The average age of our squad is a relatively good one right now and we already have a number of champions on our books."

source: channel4.com
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,244
++ [ originally posted by baggio ] ++
Too many ifs and buts. Let him go when we've not yet based the foundations of our team around him. He's a fantastic player, but i think if we can find even a half decent replacement (which we can in Cassano or Gila), with a well bolstered midfield, we'd be more complete than we are now with Zlatan in the squad.
Too many ifs and buts if we don't sell him? It would be the same story if we do sell him. How do you know all these players we get in return will be great fits for the club? We were successful once with selling Zidane and buying Nedved, Thuram, etc, however how do you know we will be successful again? Talking about making a call in the dark, same story either way around.


PS: Zambrotta is a proven performer year in and year out. He plays in one of the most precarious positions on the pitch. And imo, if we dont have someone of his class to sustain our squad, not even two Zlatans in the squad will be able to help us cope.
Zambrotta can be easily replaced by Evra or Chiellini in a couple years. He's in his peak, sell him, not a 23 year-old with huge potential.
 

Erkka

Senior Member
Mar 31, 2004
3,863
++ [ originally posted by Monkfish ] ++

Juve doesn't seem to breed this loyalty in their players.
:shocked:

Yeah, maybe it's taken out of the context (spelling?), but that's just crap. Even current Juve is full of 'old reliables'.
 

Monkfish

Senior Member
Jun 14, 2003
557
++ [ originally posted by Erkka ] ++


:shocked:

Yeah, maybe it's taken out of the context (spelling?), but that's just crap. Even current Juve is full of 'old reliables'.
I was talking about the 'star' players. I know Juve has had certain players for years, but I meant those players that were likely to draw interest from Real Madrid etc.

So yes, it was taken out of context.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Too many ifs and buts if we don't sell him? It would be the same story if we do sell him. How do you know all these players we get in return will be great fits for the club? We were successful once with selling Zidane and buying Nedved, Thuram, etc, however how do you know we will be successful again? Talking about making a call in the dark, same story either way around.

Zambrotta can be easily replaced by Evra or Chiellini in a couple years. He's in his peak, sell him, not a 23 year-old with huge potential.
Who knows what the future holds one way or another? Like i said, Zlatan may eventually want to leave for lack of vibrancy in the city of Turin or because his girl wants to be by the sea, or just maybe that he has a fallout with Moggi. On the other hand he could be the best player to have graced the Juventus jersey in recent history. But baseless assumptions count for nothing. Truth is, that if we get rid of Zlatan when we can (i.e now) because we dont work around him, and he will not be more saleable than he is at this point of time. It will only fund us options which we're going to need anyway, but with some money and players to spare.

Zambrotta can be easily replaced? Are you sure about that? Coz im not. Evra? Chillieni? Would you seriously sacrifice a future captain for someone who doesnt even play in the serie a or someone who has been anything but in the same calibre. Zlatan's sale gives us easier options in Cassano and Gilardino, but im afraid Zambrotta's sale would lead to a wild goose chase looking to sew up our entire left portion. In addition to the other problems we already have.
 

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