Vinman said:
is isnt just the "welfare mom" as you describe...its the "welfare guys" who spend all their time hanging on the street corners peddling their crack cocaine, or playing their PS2...60 inch tv and all, while the rest of us suckers pay for them
obviously, you dont get to see this as much as I do, but it is a very big problem, and to think that they have to pay for nothing, and get everything paid for, including a better healthcare than I, and most other working Americans get is just unbelieveable
You may not have realized that I went to college in the inner city of Chicago where I passed by people warming themselves over garbage can fires every day during the winter months. Or how I used to live in south Berkeley at the Oakland border, where every other night there was somebody firing a gun wildly down the sidewalk in front of the liquor store/convenience mart -- just to clear out the crowd who always just "hung out" there.
Those folks are dead weight, and it is a big problem. Converting them into productive members of society may be impossible for some of them. But it's not like I envy their lives either.
Sure, I may pay seven times what I should pay for to get health care -- but that's because I am paying for the six other uninsured folks who only see a doctor when they're being wheeled into the ER under life-threatening circumstances. I would like to only pay my fair share, but I wouldn't trade places with any of them.
My preference in this example isn't that we prevent those six from any access to health care to get my costs down. I'd like to see a solution to the bigger problem of the uninsured, and how the insured are subsidizing the uninsured under the current f*ed up system.
Most of the imbeciles who cheat get caught sooner or later....and thats not exactly something I see on a daily basis, unlike the "welfare guys" who not only rob from our system, but are too lazy to use condoms as well......
My point is that it's just very easy and convenient in this country to villify the poor and people with little power. Quite often it's deserved. But too often they are seen as a scapegoat for government and social waste when there are other, bigger fish to fry.
When my paycheck is getting financially raped more by people who are guilty of white collar crime in the form of, say, personal or corporate tax evasion, a whole lotta hell breaks loose when the feds try to lift a finger to stop it. People with that money (some obtained illegally, for obvious reasons) and who have some power make sure that organizations we socially love to hate, like the IRS, are emasculated from ever being able to catch them. Just the concept of fair tax enforcement is a third rail in electoral politics. The poor are not third rail politics, and are thus easier targets.
you, Cheta, but what the hell are you 
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