Question about the USA (1 Viewer)
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So this is your logic:
You spent in a) welfare and b) war. Where we would all think you would spend less if you forgot about the war, you're saying it would be just the same bill.
a) + b) = a)?
Now that's odd, because I was pretty damn sure such a war was a costly affair. You might be bashing your welfare system (hey, if you get cancer, that's your fault right?), but has it ever occurred to you that you're wasting valuable dollars on the war on terror? Oh right, you're far more likely to be killed by terrorists than by cancer. FFS Vin, even if the welfare system is being abused that's not the first thing you should look at.
You spent in a) welfare and b) war. Where we would all think you would spend less if you forgot about the war, you're saying it would be just the same bill.
a) + b) = a)?
Now that's odd, because I was pretty damn sure such a war was a costly affair. You might be bashing your welfare system (hey, if you get cancer, that's your fault right?), but has it ever occurred to you that you're wasting valuable dollars on the war on terror? Oh right, you're far more likely to be killed by terrorists than by cancer. FFS Vin, even if the welfare system is being abused that's not the first thing you should look at.
Hey why are you guys complaining??? Every country should have welfare, you never know when you gonna need it. I agree on fact that welfare should not be that big that you can live from it, maybe only for people who are actually are unable to make livings.
If you are that much unsatisfied with welfare than you should come here in Bosnia we have but actually don't have welfare.
If you are that much unsatisfied with welfare than you should come here in Bosnia we have but actually don't have welfare.
its obvious that you dont understand what I said...and since you dont live in the USA I'll give you the benefit of the doubt
your comment about cancer is a joke...if someone is unfortunate enough to get it, and they dont have insurance, then by all means they should receive treatment
my qualms are with PERFECTLY healthy people who are too lazy to get a job, and EXPECT our government to give them food, shelter, and money...while they offer nothing to our economy, and are just dead weight
And I'll state the obvious and say that money spent on the war on terror is a lot more justified than giving away my money to people who are too lazy to contribute to soceity
you do realize that most of that money is given to the likes of Halliburton. It's perfectly fine to hold republican and free market views, as i agree with you on those counts. But to fail to recognize the dishonesty and incompetence of this administration is simply ridiculous. Losing congress was a good thing as i see it a deterrent to the neo-con movement.
Vinman, I will definitely entertain this line of thinking. But I honestly believe you're reacting from your emotions and not your intellect on this one. Because anybody with an Etrade account can tell you that when it comes to matters of finance, you have to make decisions with your head and not your emotions. The former live fat cat lives. The latter subsidize the fat cat lives of others. So you have to make a decision which one you want to be.
Sure, people living off the dole can often be leeches to society. They're a drain on the general welfare and unnecessarily add to the tax base when they could be contributing rather than taking.
But I won't even bring up the war example for a moment. What if I told you that the money people fudged on their taxes every year amounted to far more than what we spend on welfare programs?
What should we be more upset about? A lazy bastard who eeks out a few hundred dollars a month to leech off the system -- for the priviledge of living in a rat-and-crime-infested neighborhood? Or should we be more upset about the guy who writes off an extra $5,000 here and there as a shady "business expense" or a "charitable donation"? And what of the corporations that do this, but on the scale of entire city police budgets? Companies that open a 6x6-foot office in Bermuda to call their corporate headquarters and thus avoid taxes that every other red-blooded American shares to fund programs like defense, anti-terrorism, etc.?
Are they worth any less of our contempt? We are merely talking about people who are getting something for nothing... not paying their fair share into the system... taking out what they never put in... right?
Of course, I'm presuming you've never pushed the envelope on your personal taxes here. As this is about an "us versus them" thing. So we'll just rule out the possibility here that you don't have the same contempt for tax evaders as welfare moms because you've been a little guilty here and there yourself in the tax department. As casting the first stone at a lazy welfare recipient while you're getting away with stuff on your own taxes would be entirely hypocritical, of course.
So what makes the welfare mom a much more despicable target for you? I'm curious.
Sure, people living off the dole can often be leeches to society. They're a drain on the general welfare and unnecessarily add to the tax base when they could be contributing rather than taking.
But I won't even bring up the war example for a moment. What if I told you that the money people fudged on their taxes every year amounted to far more than what we spend on welfare programs?
What should we be more upset about? A lazy bastard who eeks out a few hundred dollars a month to leech off the system -- for the priviledge of living in a rat-and-crime-infested neighborhood? Or should we be more upset about the guy who writes off an extra $5,000 here and there as a shady "business expense" or a "charitable donation"? And what of the corporations that do this, but on the scale of entire city police budgets? Companies that open a 6x6-foot office in Bermuda to call their corporate headquarters and thus avoid taxes that every other red-blooded American shares to fund programs like defense, anti-terrorism, etc.?
Are they worth any less of our contempt? We are merely talking about people who are getting something for nothing... not paying their fair share into the system... taking out what they never put in... right?
Of course, I'm presuming you've never pushed the envelope on your personal taxes here. As this is about an "us versus them" thing. So we'll just rule out the possibility here that you don't have the same contempt for tax evaders as welfare moms because you've been a little guilty here and there yourself in the tax department. As casting the first stone at a lazy welfare recipient while you're getting away with stuff on your own taxes would be entirely hypocritical, of course.
So what makes the welfare mom a much more despicable target for you? I'm curious.
you, Cheta, but what the hell are you 
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