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danielão

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Wales is beating Azerbaijan 4-0.

Updated standings, assuming the win by that scoreline...

Wales - 4 games - 12 points - +9
Serbia-Montenegro - 3 games - 5 points - +2
Italy - 3 games - 4 points - +1
Finland - 3 games - 3 points - -1
Azerbaijan - 5 games - 1 points - -11
 

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Layce Erayce

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++ [ originally posted by denco ] ++
I know we are all unhappy with Trap and with good reason but lets be honest which Italian manager will go there and not do the same thing

I am not talking about qualifiers, I am talking about when they get to the tournament itself, look at Lippi, whenever a big game comes along he changes formation to counter the opposition in short he becomes defensive

The same with Capello , anyway he is defensive no matter the opposition, Ranieri will put wingers in his team and tell them to defend, Del Neri has a chievo team which is high on pace but low on technique and he is excalty the same as Sacchi where fitness is everything and ability counts for little

Cosmi, who knows if he gets a big job if he too will not become more cautious

No the problem is not just Trapatoni, its the fear factor of losing which I am not sure, Italy can overcome

Before he got the job everyone was saying he was born to do it, his qualifying was alright up until he was reaching the finishing line and then it all goes pear shaped, he became overly cautious bringing on Gatusso after an hour to replace a striker, and in the wc itself he was so scared of Cruz of Ecuador , he changed tactics and that was it

Mate you are wrong, Trap has always favoured a 4-3-1-2 from all the time I can remember, at Juve it was Baggio behind Ravanelli and Vialli or Moeller behind Baggio and Vialli, at Fiorentina , it was Costa behing Bati and Edmundo

His first game for Italy he played Totti behing Dp and Inzaghi and in all the qualifiers he played mostly Totti behing Inzaghi and Dp or Inzaghi and Delvecchio

He probably got scared in the wc or he changed it becos it does not work with Vieri in the side
that certainly is a good point. but I dont see the same attitude in any other NT. whats up in Italy? Do you think its the judgemental/the scape-goat attitude italy fans have?
 
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Stu

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    Wales 4 (Bellamy,Speed,Hartson,Giggs) Azerbaijan 0
    Romania 2 (Mutu,Munteanu) Denmark 2 (Rommehdahl,Gravesen)
     

    denco

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    Jul 12, 2002
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    ++ [ originally posted by lacrease ] ++


    that certainly is a good point. but I dont see the same attitude in any other NT. whats up in Italy? Do you think its the judgemental/the scape-goat attitude italy fans have?
    Lac , its just the fear of losing that bugs them so much and you are right about the scapegoat thing not to mention pitting quality players against eachother even if they do not play in the same position, you have the nonsense of Dp v Baggio, or dp v Totti
    we had Baggio v Giannini as Vicini felt they could not play in the same team which is ridiculous . The thing is they do not mind playing similar players as long as they are not in attack or have skills

    Trapatoni will not hesitate to play Tomassi, Gatusso and Dibiagio or Zanetti and Perotta when all these players have the same xtics but he will think its a crime to play Totti with Pirlo

    Today's game was alright with Totti being brilliant and all Vieri scored to goals though the first looked suspiciously offside

    I just got annoyed when Trap brought on Birindelli for Delvecchio after 1 hr

    I wanna ask a question of all lovers of Italy , Why are they so damned lazy? Why is it after they take a 2 goal lead no matter how early in the game they just stop attacking?

    Why are they always so crap in the second half of games?
     

    Tom

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    Oct 30, 2001
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    I JUST WATCHED EUROSPORT FOR OVER TWO HOURS tO WAIT FOR ITALIA HIGHLIGHTS..THEY SHOW HIGHLIGHTS OF EVERY OTHER GAME..AND JUST SHOW THE SCORE ON THE SCREEN 2-0

    BASTARDS!!!
     

    Huzi

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    Oct 9, 2002
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    well , this match doesn't have much to talk about , Italy were the better side in the 1st haf but they defended all the 2nd while Finland aren't the side that the italians will be tested by . . .
    anyway , good match for all Juventinies (i saw it just to see how our players are doing)

    forza Juve
     

    Layce Erayce

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    Aug 11, 2002
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    ++ [ originally posted by denco ] ++
    I wanna ask a question of all lovers of Italy , Why are they so damned lazy? Why is it after they take a 2 goal lead no matter how early in the game they just stop attacking?

    Why are they always so crap in the second half of games?
    I think its a part of their history- their heritage- the catenaccio, etc it all adds up to defending.

    I think they should find a way to make their style of play a lot more interesting.

    Playing the way they do is certainly very very dangerous against teams that have brilliance in attack- like Brazil, etc. very dangerous.
     

    Wings

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    Jul 15, 2002
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    Nothing to shout about. Routine Italian style - Get on the pitch, finish the job as soon as possible, defend .... defend.....defend. Give Miccoli 5 minutes or so. There.

    Meanwhile France. Get on the pitch. Look for the first goal, get it, look for the second goal, get it, look for the third goal, get it, look .............. get it.....look......get it......look....final whistle. Henry & Zidane were awesome last night.
     

    Wings

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    And Trez missed a bucketful of goals .... But at least he never lost hope & scored 1 after Henry's spade work. The French style sure suits Trez.
     

    Tom

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    Oct 30, 2001
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    yeah he must have missed about three absolute sitters before the last one which went through the keepers legs I think

    Vieri would have got 4, actually I would have got 4
     

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