Press V Juventus (16 Viewers)
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Its not about denying.. When you look back into the years, just remember how things went with the press.
Cannavaro was heiled as a GOD all over press when he was at Parma, let alone at Inter. NOW they want the NT captain arm band to be reomoved from him.
They still call Juventus the doped lady and they fail to mention that we were 100% acquited from the trial. Why is all the focus on Juve's players? Why are Juve players always mentioned in a bad way. Don't you feel that its abit strange that all players involved in the illegal bettings are Juventus' or ex-juventus' that did not go to milan or roman teams?
We are not angels, but what gets on the nerve is the way the press disrespects everything about juventus.
I wouldn't be surprised if the press clamed down recently about Buffon cause he might be on his way to Milan...
Cannavaro was heiled as a GOD all over press when he was at Parma, let alone at Inter. NOW they want the NT captain arm band to be reomoved from him.
They still call Juventus the doped lady and they fail to mention that we were 100% acquited from the trial. Why is all the focus on Juve's players? Why are Juve players always mentioned in a bad way. Don't you feel that its abit strange that all players involved in the illegal bettings are Juventus' or ex-juventus' that did not go to milan or roman teams?
We are not angels, but what gets on the nerve is the way the press disrespects everything about juventus.
I wouldn't be surprised if the press clamed down recently about Buffon cause he might be on his way to Milan...
press vs milan
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun4h.html
Rossoneri see media conspiracy Sunday 4 June, 2006
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Milan have released a statement accusing the Press of organising a conspiracy to drag them into the Calciopoli scandal with Juventus.
“AC Milan rebel against the organised media’s campaign against us,” read the release on their official website.
“There are entirely arbitrary theories of a 'Milan system’ by misinterpreting snippets of phone conversations, bending the wise words of FIGC Commissioner Guido Rossi and trying to turn a cordial meeting between Adriano Galliani and Rossi into an interrogation.”
Juventus have until now been at the centre of the Calciopoli scandal and risk anything from docked points to demotion into Serie B.
However, the new tactic used by Luciano Moggi’s legal team is to claim that the former Juve director general was only trying to “defend himself against the real power centres of football” – namely Milan.
The Turin-based newspapers have printed several stories supporting this theory over the past few days, including allegations that a linesman was a Rossoneri supporter and today 'Tuttosport’ claimed that the club gifted watches to referees.
“The final aim of this campaign of misinformation is manifest: they intend to transfer the investigation and its verdicts elsewhere, struggling to generate a concert of malicious suggestions to those who must analyse and decide,” continued Milan’s statement.
“Nobody from these newspapers has tried to transcribe, nor even probably to read, the original information provided by the Lazio police in their investigations so far.”
This is the statement printed by magazine 'L’Espresso’ and the Milan website, provided by the Lazio-based Carabinieri police on January 21, 2006, as part of their investigations:
“The evidence acquired thus far reinforce the investigative theory that Luciano Moggi has absolute power over the entire football system. It’s an even more alarming situation due to the exclusivity of this power, next to which there is no counter-balance able to contrast it.”
The temperature in Calciopoli is rising sharply with less than three weeks to go before the investigation is set to conclude and the first verdicts delivered.
Galliani, who is Vice-President of Milan and President of the Lega Calcio, is set to meet with Federation Commissioner Rossi on Monday morning to discuss how they’ll move forward in revamping the football system.
There are also reports this will sanction Galliani’s resignation from the Lega, something which has been repeatedly requested by Vice-President Maurizio Zamparini, who has already handed in his own notice.
Despite the increasingly bitter row between the two clubs, Galliani confirmed yesterday that the Trofeo Berlusconi would again be a Milan-Juventus match in August. The tournament began in 1991 and is set for its 16th edition, almost all of them with these two sides
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun4h.html
Rossoneri see media conspiracy Sunday 4 June, 2006
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Milan have released a statement accusing the Press of organising a conspiracy to drag them into the Calciopoli scandal with Juventus.
“AC Milan rebel against the organised media’s campaign against us,” read the release on their official website.
“There are entirely arbitrary theories of a 'Milan system’ by misinterpreting snippets of phone conversations, bending the wise words of FIGC Commissioner Guido Rossi and trying to turn a cordial meeting between Adriano Galliani and Rossi into an interrogation.”
Juventus have until now been at the centre of the Calciopoli scandal and risk anything from docked points to demotion into Serie B.
However, the new tactic used by Luciano Moggi’s legal team is to claim that the former Juve director general was only trying to “defend himself against the real power centres of football” – namely Milan.
The Turin-based newspapers have printed several stories supporting this theory over the past few days, including allegations that a linesman was a Rossoneri supporter and today 'Tuttosport’ claimed that the club gifted watches to referees.
“The final aim of this campaign of misinformation is manifest: they intend to transfer the investigation and its verdicts elsewhere, struggling to generate a concert of malicious suggestions to those who must analyse and decide,” continued Milan’s statement.
“Nobody from these newspapers has tried to transcribe, nor even probably to read, the original information provided by the Lazio police in their investigations so far.”
This is the statement printed by magazine 'L’Espresso’ and the Milan website, provided by the Lazio-based Carabinieri police on January 21, 2006, as part of their investigations:
“The evidence acquired thus far reinforce the investigative theory that Luciano Moggi has absolute power over the entire football system. It’s an even more alarming situation due to the exclusivity of this power, next to which there is no counter-balance able to contrast it.”
The temperature in Calciopoli is rising sharply with less than three weeks to go before the investigation is set to conclude and the first verdicts delivered.
Galliani, who is Vice-President of Milan and President of the Lega Calcio, is set to meet with Federation Commissioner Rossi on Monday morning to discuss how they’ll move forward in revamping the football system.
There are also reports this will sanction Galliani’s resignation from the Lega, something which has been repeatedly requested by Vice-President Maurizio Zamparini, who has already handed in his own notice.
Despite the increasingly bitter row between the two clubs, Galliani confirmed yesterday that the Trofeo Berlusconi would again be a Milan-Juventus match in August. The tournament began in 1991 and is set for its 16th edition, almost all of them with these two sides
this is nothing more than conspiracy of what im going to say but have any of you ever thought this whole scandal could be from a foreign source? hence what I mean is that it could be set up by the rival leagues in europe. On another note the way the press is dealing with this scandal is completly laughable in italy, if ever a situation like this occued in EPL I know one thing would be certain they would try to keep as much stuff as quiet before releasing it to the public, they would also try to make sure some of the news before they filter it out to the public is authentic in some form. Either way they would basically help their clubs and some some sort of honour between people before name and shame.
As much as it may be hated, we cant escape it, its all around us, the websites we read our news from may be actually from the media websites which in turn may make some revenue or another, Others which may be set up by supporters in turn also get there news from media and although we may not be directly buying from it we have no choice but to still take up note or acknowledge there garbage.. there really is no way running from it. Lets just put it in simple terms, Juve tried running from it (Press silence) and they had their way of still grabbing their attention one way or another. As for buying from it, well media is supponserd by many organisations, therefore supporting (buying something from) their supponsers means indirectly supporting them
Media power is obvious. it's been used many times not only in football but also in important political issues. Remember the War against Irak and how the documentary "9'11" have explained all the tricks the bush' governement had used to mislead the world opinion.
Football is a game of pleasure, of beautiful goals and stars but definitely a sport of deals, pub and unlimited zeros behind the number "1".
And all this "brouhahah" around the italian football is making it the worst one it could be.
we need a clan and fair football. Still, we love juventus as a club and not as a company.
FORZA JUVé
Football is a game of pleasure, of beautiful goals and stars but definitely a sport of deals, pub and unlimited zeros behind the number "1".
And all this "brouhahah" around the italian football is making it the worst one it could be.
we need a clan and fair football. Still, we love juventus as a club and not as a company.
FORZA JUVé
here is what I was talking about :
the media power ( sorry it's in french)
Silvio Berlusconi sera auditionné dans une affaire de corruption (6/4/2006)
La justice italienne auditionnera Silvio Berlusconi la semaine prochaine pour déterminer s¹il doit être jugé dans une affaire de corruption.
Le parquet de Milan accuse Berlusconi d¹avoir acheté 600.000 dollars le silence de l¹avocat britannique David Mills pour ne pas révéler certains détails sur son empire médiatique, alors que celui-ci était entendu dans deux affaires comme témoin.
Berlusconi et Mills clament leur innocence.
Ces auditions sont le dernier épisode d¹une saga judiciaire concernant Berlusconi, et l¹étape la plus importante après sa défaite aux élections législatives.
Il faudra plusieurs semaines, voire plusieurs mois aux juges pour décider ou non d¹inculper les deux hommes.
Trois jours avant les élections législatives d¹avril, l¹ancien président du Conseil italien avait accusé les juges d¹avoir monté cette affaire pour le déstabiliser et ruiner ses ambitions politiques.
L¹implication de l¹avocat d¹affaires David Mills a créé le scandale en Grande-Bretagne et mis fin à son mariage avec la ministre de la Culture britannique Tessa Jowell.
Dans le passé, Mills s¹est exprimé comme témoin lors de trois procès pour escroquerie mettant en cause Berlusconi.
Aujourd¹hui, l¹ex-président du Conseil, Mills et 12 autres personnes font l¹objet d¹une enquête pour une affaire d¹évasion fiscale, de fraude et de blanchiment d¹argent au sein de Mediaset, le plus grand groupe privé de télévision, contrôlé par la famille de Silvio Berlusconi.
Approximative translation by google
the media power ( sorry it's in french)
Silvio Berlusconi sera auditionné dans une affaire de corruption (6/4/2006)
La justice italienne auditionnera Silvio Berlusconi la semaine prochaine pour déterminer s¹il doit être jugé dans une affaire de corruption.
Le parquet de Milan accuse Berlusconi d¹avoir acheté 600.000 dollars le silence de l¹avocat britannique David Mills pour ne pas révéler certains détails sur son empire médiatique, alors que celui-ci était entendu dans deux affaires comme témoin.
Berlusconi et Mills clament leur innocence.
Ces auditions sont le dernier épisode d¹une saga judiciaire concernant Berlusconi, et l¹étape la plus importante après sa défaite aux élections législatives.
Il faudra plusieurs semaines, voire plusieurs mois aux juges pour décider ou non d¹inculper les deux hommes.
Trois jours avant les élections législatives d¹avril, l¹ancien président du Conseil italien avait accusé les juges d¹avoir monté cette affaire pour le déstabiliser et ruiner ses ambitions politiques.
L¹implication de l¹avocat d¹affaires David Mills a créé le scandale en Grande-Bretagne et mis fin à son mariage avec la ministre de la Culture britannique Tessa Jowell.
Dans le passé, Mills s¹est exprimé comme témoin lors de trois procès pour escroquerie mettant en cause Berlusconi.
Aujourd¹hui, l¹ex-président du Conseil, Mills et 12 autres personnes font l¹objet d¹une enquête pour une affaire d¹évasion fiscale, de fraude et de blanchiment d¹argent au sein de Mediaset, le plus grand groupe privé de télévision, contrôlé par la famille de Silvio Berlusconi.
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look at Adnkronos's votes for yesteday's game and especially the Juve players vote and comments.
Buffon 6
Una partita senza troppi patemi. E' bastata una parata per vincere la sua 'scommessa'
Zaccardo 6
Miracolato, arriva in Germania col biglietto di Panucci, antipatico a Lippi. Riesce a non sfigurare più di tanto
Cannavaro 6
Il capitano mostra sicurezza, senza sbagliare nulla. Come avrà fatto senza flebo al braccio?
Nesta 6
Non è al massimo e si vede, però di classe (e non solo) con il tacco blocca un contropiede degli africani
Grosso 5
Prima ringrazia Zambrotta. Ma poi forse pensa che era meglio la panchina. Troppo emozionato, si blocca senza trovare la posizione. Dalla sua parte il Ghana fa paura
Perrotta 9
Vederlo in campo fa pensare che Lippi sia un allenatore. E già è tanto, ma lui stupisce ed è il migliore degli azzurri. Non si ferma un momento, avendo un'altra marcia e quasi sfiora il gol nel finale
Pirlo 8
In linea con Totti trova il gol con un tiro dai 26 metri e sblocca un match difficile. Poi rallenta e cincischia, per fortuna sciabatta verso Iaquinta che raddoppia. Gol e assist
De Rossi 6
Debutto difficile ma alla fine porta a casa la pagnotta: un'ammonizione e due falli da rigore, ringraziando l'oculista e la moglie dell'arbitro
Totti 7+
Inizia lento ma gioca sempre di prima. E riesce lo stesso a fare la differenza, velocizzando una squadra che sembra spesso avere il freno a mano tirato. Due i pezzi migliori: la faccia stranita perché ha segnato pure Iaquinta e il gavettone a Peruzzi
Camoranesi 4 (10' s.t.)
Resta nel tabellino per due aspetti: non si è tagliato i vcapelli e riesce lo stess o a farsi ammonire. Lippi aveva azzeccato a lasciarlo in panchina, ma poi non resiste al tentativo di farsi del male con l'argentino e lo schiera
Gilardino 5
Lotta, combatte rientra, copre, aiuta. Potrebbe essere il miglior sostituto di Zambrotta, solo che a quest orittmo si dimentica del ruolo di attaccante, sparando in bocca al portiere del Ghana
(19 s.t.) Iaquinta 3 poi 8
Poi si dice che i miracoli nel calcio non esistono! Gioca quattro palloni. Il primo fuorigioco, ma aveva ragione lui, il secondo fuorigioco ma aveva ragiobne Koffour. il terzo strategico in area lo 'padella'. Per il quarto accenderà un cero a S.Pirlo
Toni 7
Il centravanti tuttigol rompe una traversa ma non centra la porta. Tanto impegno, ma a vuoto
(37' s.t.) Del Piero sv
Chi l'ha visto?
Lippi 7 poi 2 poi 8
Il Marcello nazionale azzecca la formazione (schierandone una totalmente sperimentale) poi passati in vantaggio si fa prendere dal libellulum che è in lui, ovvero la paura che l'attanaglia e gli viene il braccino. Risultato tutti dietro a soffrire. Dura leggere la partita senza qualcuno che ti suggerisce al cellulare, e allora tra Inzaghi e Iaquinta sceglie l'azzardo e probabilmente si brucia la sua dose di fortuna per ii mese di giugno
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Buffon 6, needed only one save to win his bet.// unfuckinbelievable
Cannavaro 6, sure of himself, didn't make any mistakes. How did he do without a syringe in his arm?// scandalous
Camoranesi 4 //He was great and they give him 4 :rolleyes
Del Piero, no vote. Who saw him? This is the only one that makes sense
Buffon 6
Una partita senza troppi patemi. E' bastata una parata per vincere la sua 'scommessa'
Zaccardo 6
Miracolato, arriva in Germania col biglietto di Panucci, antipatico a Lippi. Riesce a non sfigurare più di tanto
Cannavaro 6
Il capitano mostra sicurezza, senza sbagliare nulla. Come avrà fatto senza flebo al braccio?
Nesta 6
Non è al massimo e si vede, però di classe (e non solo) con il tacco blocca un contropiede degli africani
Grosso 5
Prima ringrazia Zambrotta. Ma poi forse pensa che era meglio la panchina. Troppo emozionato, si blocca senza trovare la posizione. Dalla sua parte il Ghana fa paura
Perrotta 9
Vederlo in campo fa pensare che Lippi sia un allenatore. E già è tanto, ma lui stupisce ed è il migliore degli azzurri. Non si ferma un momento, avendo un'altra marcia e quasi sfiora il gol nel finale
Pirlo 8
In linea con Totti trova il gol con un tiro dai 26 metri e sblocca un match difficile. Poi rallenta e cincischia, per fortuna sciabatta verso Iaquinta che raddoppia. Gol e assist
De Rossi 6
Debutto difficile ma alla fine porta a casa la pagnotta: un'ammonizione e due falli da rigore, ringraziando l'oculista e la moglie dell'arbitro
Totti 7+
Inizia lento ma gioca sempre di prima. E riesce lo stesso a fare la differenza, velocizzando una squadra che sembra spesso avere il freno a mano tirato. Due i pezzi migliori: la faccia stranita perché ha segnato pure Iaquinta e il gavettone a Peruzzi
Camoranesi 4 (10' s.t.)
Resta nel tabellino per due aspetti: non si è tagliato i vcapelli e riesce lo stess o a farsi ammonire. Lippi aveva azzeccato a lasciarlo in panchina, ma poi non resiste al tentativo di farsi del male con l'argentino e lo schiera
Gilardino 5
Lotta, combatte rientra, copre, aiuta. Potrebbe essere il miglior sostituto di Zambrotta, solo che a quest orittmo si dimentica del ruolo di attaccante, sparando in bocca al portiere del Ghana
(19 s.t.) Iaquinta 3 poi 8
Poi si dice che i miracoli nel calcio non esistono! Gioca quattro palloni. Il primo fuorigioco, ma aveva ragione lui, il secondo fuorigioco ma aveva ragiobne Koffour. il terzo strategico in area lo 'padella'. Per il quarto accenderà un cero a S.Pirlo
Toni 7
Il centravanti tuttigol rompe una traversa ma non centra la porta. Tanto impegno, ma a vuoto
(37' s.t.) Del Piero sv
Chi l'ha visto?
Lippi 7 poi 2 poi 8
Il Marcello nazionale azzecca la formazione (schierandone una totalmente sperimentale) poi passati in vantaggio si fa prendere dal libellulum che è in lui, ovvero la paura che l'attanaglia e gli viene il braccino. Risultato tutti dietro a soffrire. Dura leggere la partita senza qualcuno che ti suggerisce al cellulare, e allora tra Inzaghi e Iaquinta sceglie l'azzardo e probabilmente si brucia la sua dose di fortuna per ii mese di giugno
______________________________
Buffon 6, needed only one save to win his bet.// unfuckinbelievable
Cannavaro 6, sure of himself, didn't make any mistakes. How did he do without a syringe in his arm?// scandalous
Camoranesi 4 //He was great and they give him 4 :rolleyes
Del Piero, no vote. Who saw him? This is the only one that makes sense
