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Gian

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Apr 12, 2009
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Should Brendan Rodgers get more recognition and be considered an elite manager?

When he took over Leicester were awful and closer to relegation than competing for the title. They had also changed managers 4 times post-Ranieri. The infamous 9-0 win against Southampton, the 5th place finish last year and currently fighting for the title in the most competitive season of the league's existence. I don't think he's getting the recognition he deserves
 
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il brutto

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Jun 6, 2015
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Should Brendan Rodgers get more recognition and be considered an elite manager?

When he took over Leicester were awful and closer to relegation than competing for the title. They had also changed managers 4 times post-Ranieri. The infamous 9-0 win against Southampton, the 5th place finish last year and currently fighting for the title in the most competitive season of the league's existence. I don't think he's getting the recognition he deserves
He's getting quite a lot of recognition in the UK. I remember there being a lot of praise already when he was at Swansea. You're right that he doesn't get the same recognition outside of the UK though. I think it's mostly down to not really doing that much in European competitions and not winning any bigger trophies. Had he won the PL with Liverpool and done something in European competitions things might be different.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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No, you have to win something to be considered elite. And winning trophies at Celtic in a then-one team league doesn't count (his European record with them is pathetic). But he's done well at every club he has managed, except a stint with Reading.

Last season Leicester finished 37 points behind Liverpool and lost 12 games, so that is not close to elite, but they have definitely grown under him after the inevitable come down post-title-winning season. This season it's open because there is more parity and randomisation thanks to Covid. Look at the table and see they are top at the halfway stage having already lost 5 games and conceded 21 goals. Man Utd have conceded 24 goals in 18 games and are a point behind. That trend would see you nowhere near the title in a normal season.

The manager takes a lot of praise when teams do well but they've also signed well in positions they needed to. Ndidi to replace Kante, Mendy as well. Everyone knew about Tielemans but they took a chance on him. James Maddison was a standout young player in the Championship. Ricardo Pereira another known name but they went for him. Fofana and Castagne are good signings. And they develop through their academy (Chilwell, Barnes, Choudhury). They also signed Harry Maguire and Rodgers helped develop him. He's good at doing this, as we saw with Liverpool. Perhaps his biggest strength. In fact he said it himself recently; "My yardstick has always been about influence, how I can influence players and develop them. Winning trophies for myself is not at the forefront of my mind. There are a lot of great managers that never get a chance to do it."

Any normal season I still think they'd be hard pushed to finish top 4, but there are some teams struggling with the season as it is. The season is open and by default he'd be considered elite if he wins the league. With Ranieri people see it as something of a one-off or fluke season, but if he could add a PL title to cups with Celtic, his Swansea record and a near miss with Liverpool, then he'd be considered elite and probably end up moving to another team.
 
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He's getting quite a lot of recognition in the UK. I remember there being a lot of praise already when he was at Swansea. You're right that he doesn't get the same recognition outside of the UK though. I think it's mostly down to not really doing that much in European competitions and not winning any bigger trophies. Had he won the PL with Liverpool and done something in European competitions things might be different.
And down to Leicester not being a top club.
 

He-Man

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Mar 1, 2013
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Barca,Real,Liverpool.

three of the four most disgusting clubs in Europe.

So today its a classic hat trick bianconero.



edit: stupid He-Man, stupid jinx
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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So Liverpool went a million years without a home loss then lose to Burnley?

Didn't see any of the game or incidents but you can be sure Klopp will blame the ref shortly.
 

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