Premier League 2017/18 (3 Viewers)
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Pep is so hard to beat over 38 games once his team is settled. There are no missteps against small teams. He just overruns them.
In a one off or even a two leg matchup it's quite different. I'm actually a fan of Pep despite my past criticisms but I criticize him only because it's so simple for him to become easily the best coach ever, and that is to adapt from time to time. But he has some insane marks on his resume where his ego overshadows the whole match like when he insisted on marking Barca's MSN man to man at the halfway line and getting destroyed.
Even smaller matches like this year vs. Napoli. He lets them hang around. He gives openings. It's not as if you're tucking your tail between your legs if you decide to counter for just 20 minutes. Just sub one attacker for a midfielder and counter, and the game is over.
But no, that would mess up his "art". Jesus, it's a football match not "art".
In a one off or even a two leg matchup it's quite different. I'm actually a fan of Pep despite my past criticisms but I criticize him only because it's so simple for him to become easily the best coach ever, and that is to adapt from time to time. But he has some insane marks on his resume where his ego overshadows the whole match like when he insisted on marking Barca's MSN man to man at the halfway line and getting destroyed.
Even smaller matches like this year vs. Napoli. He lets them hang around. He gives openings. It's not as if you're tucking your tail between your legs if you decide to counter for just 20 minutes. Just sub one attacker for a midfielder and counter, and the game is over.
But no, that would mess up his "art". Jesus, it's a football match not "art".
Unfair comparisons imo. Sane and Jesus are only kids. Their better days are still ahead. But they have lot of potential. Not sure why you dont rate them tbh.
Aguero, Silva and KDB would all start in serious teams. Their current keeper is also supposed to be really good, so surely he would start in many teams who have question marks with keepers, say PSG for example. Aguero could have gone to Barca or Real but for Atletico loyalty rejected them. And he seemed to have settled in Manchester very well cause he extended till like for ever and only consider going back to Argentina on his old days. (that was years ago already). Silva is somewhat underrated player in general. He was actually one of Spain best players in euro 2008 for example. But goes under radar because of Xavi-Iniesta and Real/Barca players in the NT during the dominant years. He was class already at Valencia. He and Villa had a great partnership in terms of understanding.
Aguero, Silva and KDB would all start in serious teams. Their current keeper is also supposed to be really good, so surely he would start in many teams who have question marks with keepers, say PSG for example. Aguero could have gone to Barca or Real but for Atletico loyalty rejected them. And he seemed to have settled in Manchester very well cause he extended till like for ever and only consider going back to Argentina on his old days. (that was years ago already). Silva is somewhat underrated player in general. He was actually one of Spain best players in euro 2008 for example. But goes under radar because of Xavi-Iniesta and Real/Barca players in the NT during the dominant years. He was class already at Valencia. He and Villa had a great partnership in terms of understanding.
Not by far at all. Their attack on paper is about as good as Chelsea United or Liverpool (this season). Chelsea lack depth but the starting 11 is really close in quality to City's. UTD have about the same quality in the starting 11 and about the same depth or slightly less. Liverpool have no depth and not a single good defensive player.
Does he have a squad to be strongest in the EPL yes. But to completely obliterate them with this massive gap? Hell no.
His squad is not substantially better than the rest the way Bayern's squad is much superior to Dortmund's or Juve to Roma/Napoli. But he is now making them feel like the Dortmunds & Romas of the world. Mind you, these are all top coaches too.
Does he have a squad to be strongest in the EPL yes. But to completely obliterate them with this massive gap? Hell no.
His squad is not substantially better than the rest the way Bayern's squad is much superior to Dortmund's or Juve to Roma/Napoli. But he is now making them feel like the Dortmunds & Romas of the world. Mind you, these are all top coaches too.
Morata is unproven in terms of 20+ goalscoring starter, compared to Aguero.
Utd are weird imo. Really weird. Zlatan is finished (age wise and recovering from long term injury). Guys like Martial are 22 years old now so breakthrough should be made by now (3rd season at Utd). But doesnt seem so.
Lukaku is all hype and crap in big games. Also not CL top level striker. I think they should have signed another striker this summer.
Utd are weird imo. Really weird. Zlatan is finished (age wise and recovering from long term injury). Guys like Martial are 22 years old now so breakthrough should be made by now (3rd season at Utd). But doesnt seem so.
Lukaku is all hype and crap in big games. Also not CL top level striker. I think they should have signed another striker this summer.
Strikers: City has the best.
Wingers: Sane & Sterling are not players that would start regularly for Liverpool, Chelsea or Utd. Chelsea clearly has the best wingers.
CM & CAMS: city has top quality in KDB, Silva & Fernandinho but Fabregas & Kante arent lil kids either. Same with Pogba & Matic.Even Miki was the bundesliga's best midfielder till UTD ruined him. No clear gap in the starting CMs but city is better in depth.
Defense they are all shit. GK United clearly has the best keeper.. Courtois and Ederson are kinda equals now.
Again overall City has most quality depth and are slightly strongest in the striker and CM positions on paper. That small difference on Paper is translating into a huge gap on the football pitch thanks to Pep's system. Him edging competition and winning the title is okay... but him having a gigantic gap and breaking all sorts of records in the process shows that he is doing something special this season.
How do you rate City's squad against ours btw?
Aguero and David Silva surely would get a lot of starts at any given top team. Sane and Sterling might be a bit different, but for his system they are exceptional players. In a way the same goes for KDB by the way, who has been very disappointing for Belgium over the last few years.
It would be foolish to say Guardiola isn't a great coach, but on the other hand he did get everything he asked for. Got to spend millions and millions on fullbacks for example.
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