Possible Ranieri replacements? (6 Viewers)

dogsarecute

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Aug 7, 2008
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The fans were already prejudiced against him from the start. That is why they keep mentioning that he has won nothing in his career and yet named managers who are just as bad. Panicking in 3 games huh? Man United had a very bad start last season and yet won the championship in the end.
 

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.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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The fans were already prejudiced against him from the start. That is why they keep mentioning that he has won nothing in his career and yet named managers who are just as bad. Panicking in 3 games huh? Man United had a very bad start last season and yet won the championship in the end.
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only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
7,451
- ranieri was good for chelsea, not to mention that he basically built that club into what it is today

- deschamps achieved the unthinkable at monaco which catapulted him into the legit coaching ranks

yet everyone here complained about both the above mentioned coaches. and now you want to bring in a coach who was aided by a scandal to win him a league title, unlimited resources and the best team in italy yet was eliminated in the CL to extend the italian football embarrasment??

if you're complacency has left you that irrational to believe that mancini is the cure and is a better coach than ranieri and deschamps before that then you need to step away from your computer and take a few days to rethink your logic.

mancini is as much of a failure as all of you claim ranieri to be.
I never was against deschamp infact i was pretty happy when i knew he's coaching us when we we're in serie B and hoped that he'd stay longer.

I don't blame ranieri "alone" for what's happening right now. Both the management and ranieri share the blame. average coach + very poor management = what we're witnessing so far this season.

The management were so blind by the fact the we were 3rd last season and they thought that this team needs just some small changes and thats it. Every step those people took was wrong and this season is the real test that will show who's right and who's wrong about these people....
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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The fans were already prejudiced against him from the start. That is why they keep mentioning that he has won nothing in his career and yet named managers who are just as bad. Panicking in 3 games huh? Man United had a very bad start last season and yet won the championship in the end.
Man U has a team capable of scoring massive amounts of goals. They probably had the most quality in their league at the time. So starting slow really doesn't matter for them. The Man U - Juve comparison just doesn't work considering Juve doesn't have the top quality in Serie A. Still getting all worked up over a few bad games is silly this early in the season. At least wait till January for that.
 

DiDoz

Senior Member
Jun 23, 2007
508
The fans were already prejudiced against him from the start. That is why they keep mentioning that he has won nothing in his career and yet named managers who are just as bad. Panicking in 3 games huh? Man United had a very bad start last season and yet won the championship in the end.
Man United were the champions the year before, a bad start is not a big deal, as for Ranieri, he's a loser whether you like it or not, it's a fact not an opinion, he was good at building teams but he even sucked at rebuilding ours,

On the other hand, members suggesting Mancini should really shoot themselves, and those who wish for Conti are unbelievably romantic
 

DiDoz

Senior Member
Jun 23, 2007
508
I never was against deschamp infact i was pretty happy when i knew he's coaching us when we we're in serie B and hoped that he'd stay longer.

I don't blame ranieri "alone" for what's happening right now. Both the management and ranieri share the blame. average coach + very poor management = what we're witnessing so far this season.

The management were so blind by the fact the we were 3rd last season and they thought that this team needs just some small changes and thats it. Every step those people took was wrong and this season is the real test that will show who's right and who's wrong about these people....
many people here thought the same
 

Paolo Sosa

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Nov 11, 2005
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I never was against deschamp infact i was pretty happy when i knew he's coaching us when we we're in serie B and hoped that he'd stay longer.

I don't blame ranieri "alone" for what's happening right now. Both the management and ranieri share the blame. average coach + very poor management = what we're witnessing so far this season.

The management were so blind by the fact the we were 3rd last season and they thought that this team needs just some small changes and thats it. Every step those people took was wrong and this season is the real test that will show who's right and who's wrong about these people....
to be honest i thought the same too, but considering the game against Udinese for example it showed that we really don't need changes that much its just tiredness and the preseason games that we played took alot of our energies so early in the season, add to that Ranieri being so blind in mixing our line up and sticking with a flat 4-4-2 when he doesn't have the players for it. and one last factor if u consider the state of the players after the Catania game and thier disappointment with the result which they didn't get over it YET.
 

vimo

Senior Member
Apr 1, 2006
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Hi all. I didn't post for a long time up here, but i thought i'd share my thoughts on our current situation...

First of all, i think we should all relax a little. Don't get me wrong, i was extremely pissed after the palermo-game and i was thinking about possible ranieri-replacements too... at first! But now if i consider all the facts i think a coach-change would be the worst thing to do. And it's quite obvious and undoubtable imo;

It's obvious to everyone that ranieri is not our long-term solution for juventus. He was brought in because of obvious reasons (financial reasons, mainly) and i do in fact still believe that bringing ranieri was not a bad move. Kicking him out now will just further disturb our team morale.
And to those people who believe Prandelli will just throw himself at our feet... don't be naive. He has some great things going on in fiorentina. He got high quality signings, has decent team with a rather good prospective... Do you seriously believe he'll just sign for juve at this current moment? CL pressure (a juve coach MUST aim for CL sooner or later), a rather unbalanced team (3 or even 4 DMs but no really good sub for the defensive row), and with our key players starting to fade out (neddy is probably gone next year, del piero won't go on forever, and camo and trez will follow one day). Even if Prandelli was a Juve-fan deep down in his heart, giving up his rather comfortable position in fiorentina (where he performs better than expected) would be a big step to take.

And the same thing goes for all the other names that were stated... I don't think that a coach-change would bring any positive results. But then again, i don't think we should get into that "we-are-bad"-mood. I mean we had some bad games lately, no one is going to deny that, and we surely don't play the fancy stuff we fans would want to see, but come on... on day 6 of the chamipnship, you can't really say much about the season. We surely need to improve, but it's not like it's the end of the world already!

We beat zenit (something i wouldn't have expected at all!), we still have everything in our hands (CL and championship)... If we can't get passed Group stage in CL, and we don't really get out of this miserable position in the serie-a Table, THEN we can talk about what to do next.

I'd suggest we give everyone a break. We currently have injury problems, and severe fitness issues. I mean i'm not going to go and look for excuses (i'm sure it has been discussed thoroughly in the game-thread), but with camo, zanetti and nedved missing, it was pretty obvious to me, that our midfield would fail miserably. Our main mistake in the transfer period was poulsen, not because he is that bad or because he isn't needed. The problem is that a replacement for zanetti was much more needed! And that's all!

We sucked really hard last sunday, but it's not like we gave away every chance to win anything. Once we get back legro, chiellini (don't rate him at 100% yet), camo and above all zanetti, i think we can improve A LOT.
 

Babo0oli

New Member
Aug 21, 2008
18
viali or zoff....or at the end of the season pellegrini

but our bigger problem is the board,if we had someone like moggi then we didnt have to think about this things
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,916
The fans were already prejudiced against him from the start. That is why they keep mentioning that he has won nothing in his career and yet named managers who are just as bad. Panicking in 3 games huh? Man United had a very bad start last season and yet won the championship in the end.
Hardly. People, including myself, gave Ranieri a chance to prove himself while knowing he hasn't done particularly much in the past. The minority were the ones who wouldn't give him at chance; a small minority at that. But come on, we cannot keep going on like this. It's obvious Ranieri never had the plot of begin with due to the same old ridiculous decisions he continues to make that hardly make any sense. And right now, it's obvious we don't even have a team out there! Motiviating the players and making them play as a team is the manager's job, and thus far Ranieri has failed. People have given him the benefit of the doubt before, but right now patience has run out, as it probably should. Lets stop making excuses and deal with reality here - that we are in trouble.
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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I think the lack of teamwork can also be attributed to the number of new players that are starting right now...Mellberg Poulsen De Ceglie Marchisio Amauri Giovinco etc...it can't be easy to make it click straight away...and almost the whole 1st team of last year is out injured
 

jukazem

Senior Member
Feb 10, 2007
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I wouldn't bother hoping, Blanc has just dashed any hopes of ranieri being fired any time soon

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/oct7q.html
They have to say these stuff, right? Everybody says these to the media. I think its the results and expectations that count. I hope the board had higher expectations if they say the summer went well. May be now I should hope for a few more bad results, then I can see the end of him, because with Ranieri around I can't see Juve winning anything anyway.
 

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