Player ratings after each match (27 Viewers)

[Snoop]

Is that sarcasm or....



No offense, but for those who actually care about this project, we need to keep on task and not have to deal with petty discussions. We know you do not like this idea and prefer others, that's cool, however we can always make another thread to discuss the other great ideas on the forum.

I actuelly cared about the idea,as you can see I nominated myself at first,Untill I got tired of arguing,just because I didn't include some members list in my sugessted list.

 

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[Wings]

I feel honoured to be nominated for such a task. Sadly I will have to drop out as I have too many committments to attend to. However I will keenly follow this thread & as soon as my commitments reduce I will gladly give my contribution. Brilliant idea, hope it turns out well.

 

[Azzurri7]

you are wrong,I am not Capello nor Zlatan fan,

 

[Azzurri7]

I know the coach get criticized for that a lot,and for Zlatan,he needs to play regular,to gain confiedence and perform better,you guys ask evertime he plays a bad match to be benched.will that help him?I don't think so.it will jsut giive him tough times,and he will leave then,we will lose after all.Del piero is 31,people still say that he should play regular,I know he has a great career,I can't deny that, but if he plays regular,won't we lose Zlatan?who is a great talent?keep him a sub,he is a super sub IMO.look what he is doing.now tell me you or someone else, how can this makes me a zlatan fan?

Don't want to turn this one to another useless argument, But I don't see Zlatan doing any better than Del Piero. Not at all. The only Forward who's doing perfect till now is David Trezeguet.

And Shall I consider that theory of yours that we shouldn't bench Zlatan because he's young and talented. But soo far he has done almost like Alex. So talking this way means, no matter how good Dp can do we'll still have to bench him because we got one young talented player.

Just for the record and before you start Jumping I don't want to turn this into fight or anything. I just don't think It's logic what you were saying up there.

And Whether a Player is 31 or not, thats not a big deal as long as he can help the team to achieve something. Shall I name you some good and great players over 30 are still playing regular and they're doing pretty damn good. I think you already know these names If you follow Football.

I really find it silly each time I read that Alex should be benched because of his age.

I repeat, don't take my post personal. I just stated my opinion about this.

 

[Marty]

You forgot to mention he shouldn't take it personally and that you don't want to get into a fight.

 

[Chaplain]

Well, dP and zlatan are playing the same, you say, and DP is at the end of his career while Zlatan is just starting his, so you're basically saying let's hang on to a player that's been great before but ok now, and not develop a player that's ok now and has the capacity to become great in 4 years?

 

[Seven]

Just a try-out .

Abbiati: Did what he had to do. 6,5.

Chiellini: I'm still not impressed with the lad, but he didn't make any vital mistakes. His passing needs to improve soon. 6.

Zambrotta: Ok game from our captain, but I was disappointed with his offensive actions, he was far too predictable and didn't always know what to with the ball. 6.

Cannavaro: Didn't have much to do, but IMO the goal was partially his fault. 5,5.

Blasi: Not good enough. He played a horrid game, although I do believe he's capable of a lot more. 4,5.

Kovac: Didn't do much, simply because it wasn't necessary. 6.

Emerson: Looked slow and tired, yet didn't make any mistakes. Defensively he was alright, but if you're a central midfielder you need to show something in attack as well. 5,5.

Camoranesi: Fed the forwards and was creative in going forward. Not a brilliant performance though. 6.

Mutu: Our second best man out there and I simply don't understand why he's not always in the starting line up. He still seems a bit nervous, but I would consider to play him as the playmaker we so badly need. 7.

Ibrahimovic: MOM. A great performance of our giant Swede, although he still hogged the ball at times. Whenever he didn't, he was brilliant. Seems like he finally learnt how to play football. 7,5.

Trezeguet: Scored a goal, which is pretty much what he's there for. Other than that he wasn't involved in play much. 6.

Del Piero: A goal and a ball on the crossbar. That's pretty good for a sub. I don't know why people believe he isn't even in contention for a first team spot. 6,5.

Nedved: Didn't get very much time, but he wasn't very impressive either. Played a neat ball to Del Piero though after a splendid run without the ball. 6.

Zalayeta: -

Well, that's what my ratings of today would look like.

 

[Erkka]

Guys guys, instead of trying to figure out "the best way" to assign player ratings, how about you just make it open to everybody? That way you won't get the "most objective" ratings (a goal incredibly difficult to achieve no matter how you twist it), you'll be getting a nice cross section of the forum, where both meticuous analysts and rash fanboys are represented.

Exactly!! It's been quite ridiculous so far, people trying to explain that they are more objective than others, while the truth is that everyone has stance or bias towards everything, I believe that's called forming their own opinions.

Thanks to snoop, the only one who asked me. It certainly seems to be a popularity contest considering the ones that have been nominated.

 

[Bjerknes]

Juventus - Treviso

My match ratings:

Abbiati 5.5

Zambrotta 6
Kovac 6
Cannavaro 6
Chiellini 4.5

Camoranesi 6.5
Emerson 6.5
Blasi 5
Mutu 7

Ibrahimovic 7
Trezeguet 6

Del Piero 6.5
Nedved and Zalayeta no rating

 

[Seven]

Exactly!! It's been quite ridiculous so far, people trying to explain that they are more objective than others, while the truth is that everyone has stance or bias towards everything, I believe that's called forming their own opinions.

Thanks to snoop, the only one who asked me. It certainly seems to be a popularity contest considering the ones that have been nominated.

How come I have been nominated then?

 

[Rami]

I never really posted any full match reports before, most of my comments were just stand alone comments about a player or an incident. But since I was nominated for the player rating project, I believe I should dazzle you with my match analysis skills (or totally embarrass myself). Your feedback and comments (positive and negative) will be deeply appreciated.
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First and foremost the most thing that really bugged me is the first 30 minutes of the match, total domination but really no will power. We just seemed relaxed and taking Trevisio lightly. This really amazed me actually, especially after Milan's match yesterday where Lecce almost got away with a point. The team seemed physically fit but not mentality fit, where believe it or not mental fitness plays a major role more than you could imagine. Only when we got stung from Treviso did we realize the precarious situation we were in. Its like Trevisio awoke the sleeping giant, where the giant should've been awake in the first place.

Abbiati should not be blamed for Trevisio's goal. IMO Canna over-anticipated where he should've tackled directly, and our defensive midfielders should't give such space for attackers to shoot. Other than the goal and a corner saved bravely by Abbiati Trevisio was not much of a threat.

The goal we conceded put our players under pressure and started playing more responsibly, even though the first two goals didn't seem to come from well organized attacks (especially the second goal where I don't know if Chiellini was crossing or passing or shooting, it was more of a fluke).

In the second half we seemed more effective and organized. Total domination again and well built attacks. Zlatan seems to finally forgo his old selfish ways and created a lot of chances with his same ol' bad boy attitude. As for Mutu, I believe that he has had a good match, but for reasons known to all, he seems more intent to show his abilities than moving the ball.

My ratings for the players today:

Abbiatti: Wasn't really tested except for one header and did well. Is not to blame for the goal. 6

Chiellini: After watching him in the previous 4 or 5 games, today I declare this player is over-rated. He is totally useless on the offense. Lots of bad crosses and passes. He produced one good shot though. 4

Kovac: Not really tested 6

Cannavaro: IMO he is to be blamed for the goal. Also his long passes really bugged me. But all in all I think its unfair to give him less than 6.

Zambro: Wore the captain's armband. His forward runs were effective even though most crosses in the first half went bad. 6.5

Mutu: As mentioned earlier, was more intent on keeping the ball and showing his skills. A very nice move in the second half that almost produced a goal. good game. 7

Emerson: Held the middle well along with nice ball distribution. 6.5

Blasi: Was almost invisible in the first half. The second half he had a good forward run on the counter but delayed passing the ball to Alex. He also had a nice shot. 6

Camo: Seems to be off-form these days. Really bad crosses and not really effective. 5

Trezeguet: Other than the goal he was invisible also. 6.5

Zlatan: IMO man of the match. Although I think there is some problem between the communication with Trezeguet. For example in the first half he headed a ball very badly because of the sun glare, even though Trezeguet was in a much better position to score. But all in all, I am happy that he left his old ways of selfishness and created chances and distributed the ball very well. 8

Del Piero: The new King of Turin! Scored his 180th goal and broke the record . Also I was happy to see his set piece shot that hit the bar. I hope the old set piece Ale is back. Even though he didn't have enough time to prove his worth, he scored a goal. Or as the commentator of Al-Jazeerah said " Plays a little, scores a lot....speaks a little, does a lot". 8

Nedved and Zalayeta....NA

My match report on the match thread.

 

[JCK]

Rami, post your report in the testing thread.

 

[Tourinorum]

Rami, Trezeguet is invisible until a ball is passed to the box and he doesn't need more than that to score. That's his magic.

 

[Snoop]

You forgot to mention he shouldn't take it personally and that you don't want to get into a fight.

thanx for that comment Marty,great now I am a trouble maker

 

[Rami]

Rami, Trezeguet is invisible until a ball is passed to the box and he doesn't need more than that to score. That's his magic.

I know....Thats why I didnt give him a bad score...Ideally I would like him to be part of the build up. And I have seen him do that...

 

[swag]

Well, that's what my ratings of today would look like.

Looks exactly like what we'd love to see here.

Btw, as a matter of reference, from this month's Calcio 2000, average ratings for all Juve players through the first 10 Serie A matches this season:

Abbiati - 6.15
Balzaretti - 6
Blasi - 6.22
Camoranesi - 6.32
Cannavaro - 6.16
Chiellini - 5.5
Chimenti - 5.83
Del Piero - 6.3
Emerson - 6.49
Giannichedda - 6.03
Ibrahimovic - 6.38
Kovac - 6.36
Mutu - 6.02
Nedved - 6.08
Pessotto - 5.85
Thuram - 6.22
Trezeguet - 6.43
Vieira - 6.55
Zalayeta - 6.08
Zambrotta - 5.93
Zebina - N/A

 

[Zlatan]

Vieira best rated?

 

[swag]

Vieira best rated?

For Juve, yes. I would agree, IMO.

Overall in Serie A for the first 10 weeks:

1. Toni - 6.97
2. Totti - 6.73
3. Peruzzi - 6.72
4. Maldini - 6.62
5. Chiesa - 6.58
- Sheva
7. Vieira - 6.55
8. Antonioli - 6.52
9. Emerson - 6.49
10. Cambiasso - 6.47
- Frey

 

[Tourinorum]

Abbiati - 5
Zambrotta - 6.3
Kovac - 5
Cannavaro - 6
Chiellini - 6.5
Camoranesi - 6.5
Blasi - 5.8
Emerson - 6.5
Mutu - 6.4
Ibrahimovic - 7.5
Trezeguet - 6.3
Del Piero - 7

 

[Cronios]

Rami, post your report in the testing thread.

anyone bother to make an average?