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Pegi

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Feb 22, 2019
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Well we bought him based on his performance as a CF. So obviously there was some success in that position. I don't see him as a false 9 because he has no ability or instincts to make key passes.

It seems the first criteria to be a false 9 on this forum is that you are small. If you are small, you are a false 9, even though you can't pass or control balls in midfield for shit. Dybala's only skill is shooting the ball in the net and basically nothing else.

But your overall point is logical and that is Dybala is not good enough as a CF for Juventus. And to that question we will never have the complete answer, only guesses. And so we will sell him at a cut price.

And perhaps we'll still be better off. If there was a great #9 sitting there on the market, I would sell Dybala immediately and buy that guy.
Yes, we bought him for that and it's definitely not out of the question to be a CF even if you're smaller, just like Aguero is. Aguero just plays in City, he plays in england where he has more space to work behind the lines, he has strong support around him and he's actually quite good with his head + his work ethic is way better, alongside with the toughness.

England - fast pace, physical, work ethic
Italy - Very tactic, defensive first mindset
Spain - Skilled, attacking mindset but mostly smaller players.
Ligue 1 - Wide open, alot of talents with the hunger to prove themselves mostly on the attacking part of the game.

If you look at Dybala, He would fit best on a ball posessing team in Spain or France, where he doesn't need to run that much, where the game isn't that physical, where you can get behind the lines instead of in Italy, where our opponents are always defending deep and being more physical. He could easily work in Spain or France, he would have more time, he would have more space, he wouldn't be ran over physical wise and he still has that X factor with his left foot. England would be suicide with the past pace, lack of stamina even tho, he could probably get more scoring chances in there than in Serie A.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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first Spinazzola gone for 29m but with Pellegrini 18years old kid on loan to Cagliari from Roma valued 21m.
So sold Spinazzola for 7m.

Then sold Cancelo for Danilo +28m valuing Danilo which has been nothing for the past 4 years 32m at 28years old when he has been paid 30m years ago and very unlikely to have and increase of value.

Then Kean 19years old some goals (7) as sub for Juventus. Great prospect and future sold for 30m witthout bonus.
When Osmanè Dembelè 1year at Dortmund 49caps 10goals for 150m

We suck at selling and accepting some offers we look disperate to do so....
Dude you're twisting the numbers just to justify your argument.

Pellegrini is 20 yo, not 18. He's a top prospect in Italy, highly rated. He's not loaned out to Cagliari yet and there's no proof he will be. Let's wait and see. If we loan him out it'll be for him to get minutes and experience not because he sucks. We were interested in him for at least a couple of years now.
Overall regarding the fullbacks I can see a pattern here that you seem to miss out on: we focus on players that are actual fullbacks, not wing backs for 352/343 (Sarri doesn't play 3 man backline, kind reminder). Spinazzola and Cancelo definitely are wing backs, most of their careers they were wingers so their positioning is very suspect in a 4 man back line. To me it's obvious Sarri prefers balanced fullbacks even if they don't offer as much going forward. It's unpopular around here because everyone wants to attack all the time but someone has to provide balance. Sarri's ways are much different to Max's so it's normal we're trading some player for the others.
I'm sure Juve was looking for a way to balance out the books though. We used that opportunity to get a player we always wanted (Pellegrini). Danilo is kind of bizarre to me but I don't consider him being worse than Hysaj who was wanted by many here (dude got benched by Malcuit). We wanted Danilo before he want to City, so it's not that surprising though.
BTW. Danilo's cost is 26m it seems, not 30m like you claim but let's wait for official numbers, shall we?

Comparing Kean to Dembele is just retarded man. Just let it go. Also, in Dembele's case Barca was desperate to buy while with Kean's case we wanted to sell, for whatever reason. Also, Kean's contract was running out, Dembele's wasn't.

As for the selling part: I disagree. We sold Kean for 27.5m + 2.5m who was on a last year of his contract and he demanded 3m net + guarantees regarding playing time. So we sold him. Hardly a bad deal. Could we have got more? I say he was on his last year of the contract, period.
Cancelo sold for 54m - it's not a bad deal at all for a player who played roughly half a season well here. I understand the disappointment with Danilo but that doesn't have much to do with the sale itself.
Spinazzola for 29m is not bad tbh. If Sarri didn't want him, then why keep him?
 

Dantes

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Dec 15, 2017
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Why the club who will be obliged to pay if he loses the image rights battle? Is it Dybala who change his agent?
There's a very good chance (if this deal even goes through) that Spurs would just simply treat Dybala like any other player in so far as the commercial use of his identity, name, image and likeness etc without any agreement with Image Star (Star Image?) - and just let them sue us, and then deal with it out of court if it ever came to that, i.e. just pretend it doesn't even exist. His former Agents won't be getting a no win / no fee deal, and the costs of bringing an action against a billion dollar plc in the UK courts won't be inconsiderable.

If this doesn't go through it will be because (a) Dybala wants to stay at Juve or (b) he wants a higher salary than Spurs will pay - which is probably code for (a) anyway.

This image rights stuff is a smokescreen, and probably jumped on by Utd's PR rather than them admit that Dybala wasn't interested in them.
 

juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
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Meeting today between the entourage of Paulo Dybala and Tottenham. Same problem regarding image rights persists. Spurs are also now trying to sign LoCelso. (Romeo Agresti)
 

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