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dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
2,599
I do think he did good work at Napoli, even if he utterly failed to be competitive outside Serie A (in coppa or europe). What he did with his team was impressive in the league.

This season he's failed to be competitive in PL, but he's met expectations in Europa League for sure (best team in the competition so getting to the final is probably the expectation).

He's a mixed bag as a coach. Tactically inflexible, without much of a plan B, and an inability to rotate (partly because of that tactical inflexibility).

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Honestly though, that has to be one of the dumbest posts I've read on this forum. :lol:
From a result point of view, he has done well in Chelsea. 3rd place finish in the league, reached finals in both the Liga cup and EL. On the downside, he has not been able to get Chelsea to play the way he want, and he is still not willing to do the necessary rotation.
 

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Nedved96

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Sep 1, 2017
7,198
There’s a clear logical disconnect for some of these nincompoops...

One second they are saying that only beautiful Sarri-style attacking football can win in Europe.

The next second they are saying that it’s harder to win with beautiful Sarri-style attacking football...

:shifty:

Which is it? :boh:
Attacking football is:

1. Harder to master
2. Has a higher ceiling when you master it

When attacking football is played correctly, your team can reach a level no defensive team could ever reach.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Attacking football is:

1. Harder to master
2. Has a higher ceiling when you master it

When attacking football is played correctly, your team can reach a level no defensive team could ever reach.
Lol at harder to master. Catenaccio is far more tactical, and far harder to master, which is why the vast majority of teams play attacking, hard pressing football now, regardless of success. Any idiot can just shout at his team to gegenpress.

You really are insufferable.

And please. Wat complete rubbish. Some of the greatest teams of all time played catenaccio.

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This is, By far, one on the stupidest things i have ever read here, and that is really saying something
Some of the greatest teams of all time should have fired those cowardly catenaccio coaches on day 1 :lol3:
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
Lol at harder to master. Catenaccio is far more tactical, and far harder to master, which is why the vast majority of teams play attacking, hard pressing football now, regardless of success. Any idiot can just shout at his team to gegenpress.
:rofl:

Looking at how utterly pathetic and clueless we have been going forward this season, evidently just shouting at your team to go press is not as easy as you’d like to think. Our pressing this season has been so uncoordinated, even technically limited teams can easily play their way out.

To teach your team how to attack like a team and not just a bunch of individuals is the hardest thing to coach in football. There are only a select few managers who know how to do this.

Some of the greatest teams of all time played catenaccio.
Not in the modern era. The best teams of this decade are:

Barca 2011
Bayern 2013
Real 2017

All played dominant attacking football.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,115
If i was the owner/president of a big club and the coach played counter attack football like a coward even one game i would fire him in the same day. What Sarri is trying to do os harder. He keeps trying because he got balls.
And this is why we actually have professionals with know-how running the football club and not pimply, 40 year old virgins, beating off to midget porn in their moms basement making retarded statements like yours.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Please. Real Madrid didn't play gung-ho attacking football under Zidane lol. They were ruthless and clinical in attack because of the GOAT, but built that from being exceptionally well organized and solid in midfield and defence. Doesn't make them a defensive team, but certainly they weren't some gung-ho Pep or Klopp style attacking team.

There are clearly far fewer managers who can pull off winning while playing pragmatic, catenaccio football in this modern era, because rule changes over the last 10-15 years predominately favour attackers. You're such a millennial, that you fail to see anything past 7-8 years ago, and are somehow oblivious to this. :inter:

Hardest thing to coach? Bullshit. It's pretty obvious teaching a team to be tactically organized defensively is substantially more difficult and requires more skill. Defending and countering in the modern era, where defenders have so many limits placed upon them is clearly more difficult as it requires ridiculous tactical organization and then reacting and adapting this to the opponent. Both teams with brilliant individual attacks, and teams who have brilliant overall team-play in attack. Which is why it's been so difficult for managers to succeed with it this past decade.

This is why, now that we've moved on from Allegri, I'm perfectly happy for us to go for a coach with a more attack-oriented philosophy, as there are very few left who can master pragmatic, defence first football and win with it.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,115
:rofl:

Looking at how utterly pathetic and clueless we have been going forward this season, evidently just shouting at your team to go press is not as easy as you’d like to think. Our pressing this season has been so uncoordinated, even technically limited teams can easily play their way out.

To teach your team how to attack like a team and not just a bunch of individuals is the hardest thing to coach in football. There are only a select few managers who know how to do this.


Not in the modern era. The best teams of this decade are:

Barca 2011
Bayern 2013
Real 2017

All played dominant attacking football.
Bayern didn’t play dominant attacking football lmao. Neither did Real really. Counter-attacking yes, especially in Real’s case. They won because they had the best attacking players in the world and amazing fullbacks who can’t defend for shit anyway.
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
Bayern didn’t play dominant attacking football lmao. Neither did Real really. Counter-attacking yes, especially in Real’s case. They won because they had the best attacking players in the world and amazing fullbacks who can’t defend for shit anyway.
Bayern 2013 and Real 2017 were both very attacking teams, just because they weren’t obsessed with possession like 2011 Barca does not mean they were defensive.

You don’t beat Barcelona 7-0 by playing catenaccio.
 
Jan 22, 2016
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Im with @Nedved96 on thia topic.

It's way harder to master attacking football and if you do it correctly it has a higher celling than defensive one ans you will have a team like Liverpool or City that play some great football, scores most goals in the league and concede less than defensive teams.

It's so hard to counter a well crafted dominant team and beat them, that's why coaches like Mou and Simone have a hard time winning something anymore with their defensive minded tactics.

Bayern didn’t play dominant attacking football lmao. Neither did Real really. Counter-attacking yes, especially in Real’s case. They won because they had the best attacking players in the world and amazing fullbacks who can’t defend for shit anyway.
Bayern played one of the most dominant attacking football ever that year.

And with Real. Actually there was no secrets. Their fullbacks were best crossers in world and they had the best goalscorer of all time in the box waiting for the ball coming in.
 

Vialli_92

Senior Member
Mar 7, 2013
6,500
Lots of members on this forum are stuck in the past and think liking attacking football makes you a brainless idiot, there is a reason Max was shown the door and it's because he can't take us forward anymore with his pragmatic approach anymore

The opposition teams are so well drilled and organised in attack they will pin you back for large periods of the game, it's very hard not to concede when this happens so you really just have to go for it now and try to outscore your opponents because it's almost inevitable they will score goals even with a parked bus, the only question is how many will they score?

I remember a parked bus used to be very effective and could shut opponents down entirely, but now the attacking department of football has been revolutionised that it's the most effective way to win games

Catenaccio in my opinion is finished and not the way to win anymore
 

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