Paul Pogba (168 Viewers)

[zizinho]

Standing there smiling with Conte and Kanté at the final whistle This fucking guy.......

He doesent give a fuck anymore it seems

 

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[BayernFan]

A few days ago some United fan on ratcafe actually blamed Juve for not training him properly for United and EPL. Evidently the blame Juve thing is not just an Italian thing.

retards can´t be helped. But okay, what can you expect from a PL fan? they have no clue

 

[zizinho]

With Pogba we'd be favourites to reach the CL final.

With Vidal we'd be favourites to win it.

Not if he gets a red card ::

 

[JuveJay]

A few days ago some United fan on ratcafe actually blamed Juve for not training him properly for United and EPL. Evidently the blame Juve thing is not just an Italian thing.

Can't wait for 'THE SYSTEM', 'PENALTY FOR JUVE' and 'IT'S ALWAYS THEM!' banners to spring up at Old Trafford.

 

[zizinho]

A few days ago some United fan on ratcafe actually blamed Juve for not training him properly for United and EPL. Evidently the blame Juve thing is not just an Italian thing.

that cant be true

 

[PhRoZeN]

Can't wait for 'THE SYSTEM', 'PENALTY FOR JUVE' and 'IT'S ALWAYS THEM!' banners to spring up at Old Trafford.

Reminds me of fergies diver quotes before our CL clash with them. Oh the classic spaghetti line as well.

"When an Italian tells me it's pasta on the plate I check under the sauce to make sure. They are the inventors of the smokescreen."

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[JuveJay]

Reminds me of fergies diver quotes before our CL clash with them. Oh the classic spaghetti line as well.

"When an Italian tells me it's pasta on the plate I check under the sauce to make sure. They are the inventors of the smokescreen."

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[lgorTudor]

Unfortunately he needs a season to fully adapt to the PL's pace


Just like Gabbiadini ::

 

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[GiocataGrande]

Unfortunately he needs a season to fully adapt to the PL's pace


Just like Gabbiadini ::

spot on

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I try to not be the bitter type, I try to forgive people and all that jesus stuff. However, this revenge is soooo silky sweet.

Not even a shadow of the player he was with us.

Eat $hit you money grabbing Dic#Head! :spinning:

 

[Fr3sh]

If he ever had a spine, he left it in Juventus.

@Post Ironic

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Pogba thread in redcafe is a joy

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Pogba has been terrible because he is operating in different circumstances. He is being asked to operate in a position where he has to be defensively astute. He won't improve in this system he has not got a defence bone in his body. He is a luxury player in this role. We need to build a system around him in which he has freedom.

People can compare him to Kante but he was never Kante at Juventus. To get the best out of someone like Pogba you could argue you need someone like Kante. Pogba should be dropped for a few games I think we're better without Pogba. We should bring Carrick back in.

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Pogba been underwhelming. For many reasons but he isn't a bad player. There are factors people need to consider.

1. Pogba took a step backwards by choosing to leave Juventus to back to United. (Deluded people will disagree but it's a fact Juve were in a better position with Pogba and are probably still better than us at moment.)

2. He left a team with arguably one of the best defences in Europe to play with Jones & Smalling.

3. He was used at Juve in a 4-3-3 system where he didn't have as much responsibility to track back and defend. It allowed him more freedom.

Pogba at Utd is being suffocated because he is being asked to operate in a two man midfield. He can't do it. He doesn't have the discipline. For me he is wasted playing as deep as he is because he tries to force the issue and he can't affect the game in or around the penalty area.

Which brings me back to a question I asked during the summer why did we sign him if we didn't intend to use him properly?

He hasn't been awful he has played well at times missed a lot of goals hitting the post/crossbar. He is playing in a role where you're expected to control the game. He is not naturally suited to his role nor do I think he can learn it.

When he plays in a two man midfield he takes too many touches, hangs on to the ball for far too long killing forward runs and counters. We need someone who can get the ball pass and move. He doesn't have the ability to drive us forward he is in fact killing us going forward by trying too hard and not simplifying his game. He needs to pick up the ball and release it early get it out of his feet. With Ibrahimovic he feels the need to get the ball and always look for that ball over the top. It's almost as if he thinks that's the only route.

There is a serious lack of footballing intelligence when you look at how we play at home. There is always one touch too many, a bad shot straight at the keeper (making them look like world beaters).

We can question his mentality but the fact is this isn't the Pogba we saw at Juventus. We obviously need to strengthen are attack, midfield and defence but I don't see him improving in the current system.

If we want him to thrive we need play to his strengths but it seems we are only intent on setting up to play with Ibrahimovic at the moment. As good as he has been it's enough to get us into the top 4. We need to consider plan B.

Ibrahimovic playing every second of every game has lead to an over reliance. We should've given Rashford more chances up front. Now Ibrahimovic has a 3 match ban it's going to be difficult for Rashford because he isn't the same player as last season.

 

[Zacheryah]

With Pogba we'd be favourites to reach the CL final.

With Vidal we'd be favourites to win it.

First of all, i agree.


However, it needs to be said that, ironically, last time we actually were in a CL final, Vidal was the one who completely went missing

 

[Fr3sh]

You can have all the talent in the world but if ur attitude and commitment in games ain't top class then it's worth very little. The midfield equivalent of Balotelli?

Balo>>>>>>Pogs though
Balo has heart, Balo is love
I wish he came here, he'd be with his buddy BonBon and Gigi

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Forget the money, please. It's a non-issue really in the grand scheme of things.

This is not a criticism of Pogba; I haven't seen him much for Juventus, but what exactly is Pogba's role as a centre midfielder for United? What is his objective? What does Mourinho tell Pogba to do?

For example:
- Herrera/Kante are probably told to break up the play/win the ball and pass it.
- Carrick is probably told to screen the defense and build up the play.
- Someone like Modric is probably told to "create" and go forward and support the strikers etc.

What is Pogba's role? Call me ignorant of the finer nuances of the game, but I just don't see a definite "use" of him, he's trying to do a bit of everything and none of it comes off. "To just be and try" is a terrible objective for a player on a football field. Please enlighten.

 

[Zacheryah]

Pogba is really getting his reputation destroyed at this rate.



Each and every guy i've spoken about football with, when it comes up that i'm a juve fan or they know it, the topic always shifts to Pogba and they'll either state he's remarcably overrated and poor, or ask me what he did so much different at juve considering how mediocre he is.



Belgium. You wont find a place that takes more pride in sucking cock whilst tending for balls and sac when it comes down to loving the premier league.



Hence, we got a few groups of ghaneese and jamaican lads at the gym. Who used to be big fans, who express their concern that he's either poor or overrated.

 

[Fr3sh]

 

[zizinho]

Balo>>>>>>Pogs though
Balo has heart, Balo is love
I wish he came here, he'd be with his buddy BonBon and Gigi

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We need to sign Balo before Buffon retires. Buffon is the only guy that can change him and make him fullfil his true potential. Hed bench Higuain easily if we were to sign him

 

[GiocataGrande]

Balo>>>>>>Pogs though
Balo has heart, Balo is love
I wish he came here, he'd be with his buddy BonBon and Gigi

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Forget the money, please. It's a non-issue really in the grand scheme of things.

This is not a criticism of Pogba; I haven't seen him much for Juventus, but what exactly is Pogba's role as a centre midfielder for United? What is his objective? What does Mourinho tell Pogba to do?

For example:
- Herrera/Kante are probably told to break up the play/win the ball and pass it.
- Carrick is probably told to screen the defense and build up the play.
- Someone like Modric is probably told to "create" and go forward and support the strikers etc.

What is Pogba's role? Call me ignorant of the finer nuances of the game, but I just don't see a definite "use" of him, he's trying to do a bit of everything and none of it comes off. "To just be and try" is a terrible objective for a player on a football field. Please enlighten.

Hahahhahahaahhaha, priceless stuff

 

[Hydde]

2 pals were calling his transferr overrrated way before manu signed him..

now every weekend we talk they are always like "i told you...pogba was a fiasco...i always knew it....he is all hype no game"

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Pogba's problem is that every player in the BPL is a box to box player, just like him, so he doesn't stand out

 

[duranfj]

He went for UCL contender to an EL team so he's playing at the level It was expected when u decide to take a backward step at the age of 20's... Conformist