Paul Pogba (168 Viewers)

[am0110]

Not a single time he's committed his future to Juventus openly. Not a single time. Interviews might be deceiving alright but at least you could say its half true.

Vidal who left for Bayern says he still dearly misses Juve.

There's going to some epic reactions here when Pogba calls United a bigger club once he joins them. Can't wait

Dude, he is going back to club which tgrew him out to play EL.Of course its because of money and thus he is a mercenary.Vidal now loojs like much better guy

 

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[Post Ironic]

This myth never seem to go away.

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Except that after Vidal we're losing another top player and no one can guarantee that the likes of Dybala or Sandro wouldn't be next.

Nah. The investments put into Dybala and Sandro mean they are far less likely to be sold eventually. The club will do everything it can to keep those two.

I honestly think the fact we got Pogba for free and the fact this will end up being 100+ mil profit has always been part of the reason we are likely to sell Pogba. I also think the club has never really considered Pogba the player they want to build this team around for the long term. I think they have long viewed him as a player that will eventually be sold on in order to really finish building Juventus back into a European giant. While it may seem counterintuitive in a way, it makes sense to me. I see us using a Pogba sale to do the same thing we did with Zidane... finish building a team that will be at or near the top of Europe for years to come (which would have happened without calciopoli)...

The thing is, if we sell Pogba and improve this team enough to spend the next 2-3 years or so at CL semis or better, and hopefully win one, that will make players far more likely to stay with us long-term and see us as a final destination, than insisting on keeping Pogba this summer could ever do.

You have to also consider that his transfer away would likely be even more high-profile next summer were it to happen. Either way it's a win for us in my opinion. We are building a dominant force, and a sustainable project á la Bayern.

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We might not see ourselves that way, but other players might. It sets a precedent. And I think we'll lose Dybala very soon too if we don't dig in and try to keep hold of our top players.

I don't necessarily agree with this. I see the club as being far more unwilling to sell Dybala over the next few years, than we are with Pogba. I think the club sees Dybala, not Pogba, as the face of the future Juve, post-Buffon.

 

[Vlad]

Nah. The investments put into Dybala and Sandro mean they are far less likely to be sold eventually. The club will do everything it can to keep those two.

I honestly think the fact we got Pogba for free and the fact this will end up being 100+ mil profit has always been part of the reason we are likely to sell Pogba. I also think the club has never really considered Pogba the player they want to build this team around for the long term. I think they have long viewed him as a player that will eventually be sold on in order to really finish building Juventus back into a European giant. While it may seem counterintuitive in a way, it makes sense to me. I see us using a Pogba sale to do the same thing we did with Zidane... finish building a team that will be at or near the top of Europe for years to come (which would have happened without calciopoli)...

The thing is, if we sell Pogba and improve this team enough to spend the next 2-3 years or so at CL semis or better, and hopefully win one, that will make players far more likely to stay with us long-term and see us as a final destination, than insisting on keeping Pogba this summer could ever do.

You have to also consider that his transfer away would likely be even more high-profile next summer were it to happen. Either way it's a win for us in my opinion. We are building a dominant force, and a sustainable project á la Bayern.

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I don't necessarily agree with this. I see the club as being far more unwilling to sell Dybala over the next few years, than we are with Pogba. I think the club sees Dybala, not Pogba, as the face of the future Juve, post-Buffon.

I think the club has done everything to try to keep Pogba, but we operate by "if a players wants to leave"... Thus I can see the same with Dybala if not next year then the year after. What Bayern did with Ribery (when he wanted to leave for Real, they didn't bugde and he conceded) is what we should have done here. I don't think we just accepted his decision, there were prolly months of talks. But sometimes you need to take a hard line approach. We have the upper hand here, considering duration of his contract.

I think the club sees Dybala, not Pogba, as the face of the future Juve, post-Buffon

They gave him #10

But hey, this all might be just a silly rumor in the end :xfinger:

 

[Maddy]

Dude, he is going back to club which tgrew him out to play EL.Of course its because of money and thus he is a mercenary.Vidal now loojs like much better guy

"mercenary" - fucken facepalm quadruple.

This is 2016. Not 1964.

 

[delpiero1986]

Paul Pogba will reportedly break the world transfer record if he moves from Juventus to Manchester United.

The English side have been pursuing the French midfielder all summer, and reportedly made a first offer of €101m, which the Bianconeri rejected.

However, with today’s sports newspapers reporting that Pogba has informed the club that he wants to leave, the transfer is now a possibility.

Today’s La Stampa, which is owned by Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, the car company controlled by the Agnelli family, says a deal between the two clubs is close, and will be a world record fee.

The newspaper believes an agreement is likely to be found for €120m [£101m], not inclusive of agent Mino Raiola’s fee.

That would see Pogba’s fee exceed that of current record-holder Gareth Bale, who cost Real Madrid €100.8m when he moved from Tottenham Hotspur in 2013.


I think he will leave!

 

[Art^]

This myth never seem to go away.

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Except that after Vidal we're losing another top player and no one can guarantee that the likes of Dybala or Sandro wouldn't be next.

That doesn't matter for me. We have a history of selling profiles at the right time. The DNA of juve has always been on the team, rather than the individual top players.

We were regarded as one of the best teams in the world when we had Iuliano, Pessotto, Conte, Ferrara and Tachinardi in our starting eleven. I am not saying they were bad players, but they were never regarded as top-notch profiles and weren't even regular starters for the national team. However, together they formed a unit at juve which was regarded as one of the best in our history.

We have always been about the "team" part and not about collecting top players.

I am okay with that.

 

[Vlad]

That doesn't matter for me. We have a history of selling profiles at the right time. The DNA of juve has always been on the team, rather than the individual top players.

We were regarded as one of the best teams in the world when we had Iuliano, Pessotto, Conte, Ferrara and Tachinardi in our team. I am not saying they were bad players, but they were never regarded as top-notch profiles and weren't even regular starters for the national team. However, together they formed a unit at juve which was regarded as one of the best in our history.

We have always been about the "team" part and not about collecting top players.

I am okay with that.

I'd argue that it's never the right time to sell 23 yo player, one of if not the best mid around.

 

[am0110]

"mercenary" - $#@!en facepalm quadruple.

This is 2016. Not 1964.

Which year is it doesnt change the fact he is after money while he is already rich so fact is he is just another mercenary.

 

[Albo]

De Gea wanted to leave too, but Man UTD forced him to stay .


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[FuriaCeca]

tbh I never expected him to leave to Man U. I always thought he'd leave for Real or Psg only. It's a really wierd decision if true. Why go back to the club that didn't believe in you, that is not even playing in the CL, while your still very young and your with a very ambitious team going for the CL ?

Unless hes in it for the money.

 

[Disorder]

The shorts he's wearing have manchester united colors

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIEyBEfDJn1/

 

[Art^]

I'd argue that it's never the right time to sell 23 yo player, one of if not the best mid around.

If Pogba leaves then he asked to leave. We can't really do much about it.

It was always going to be a paradox with Pogba. Even if we could match the wage offer, then we would question whether his loyalty was with the club or with his paycheck. Pogba leaving was always going to happen - and it will also happen in Manchester.

 

[Xperd]

We might not see ourselves that way, but other players might. It sets a precedent. And I think we'll lose Dybala very soon too if we don't dig in and try to keep hold of our top players.

Well if our revenues dont grow fast enough, thats you would expect to see. And i wont hold it against Dybala if he eventually wanted a move to Real or Barca.

 

[Alex-444]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...nited-paul-pogba-opening-bid?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

[Vlad]

If Pogba leaves then he asked to leave. We can't really do much about it.

It was always going to be a paradox with Pogba. Even if we could match the wage offer, then we would question whether his loyalty was with the club or with his paycheck. Pogba leaving was always going to happen - and it will also happen in Manchester.

But this is what we need to avoid. Not succumbing to players wishes, when they have long term contract here. Otherwise we'll always play catching up with top clubs around Europe. Last summer should have been a lesson to us and what followed in the first few months into the season.

 

[Xperd]

 

[Post Ironic]

I think the club has done everything to try to keep Pogba, but we operate by "if a players wants to leave"... Thus I can see the same with Dybala if not next year then the year after. What Bayern did with Ribery (when he wanted to leave for Real, they didn't bugde and he conceded) is what we should have done here. I don't think we just accepted his decision, there were prolly months of talks. But sometimes you need to take a hard line approach. We have the upper hand here, considering duration of his contract.
They gave him #10

But hey, this all might be just a silly rumor in the end :xfinger:

Did he not ask for it? That makes it a little different.

TO be quite honest, I've never had the feeling that the club meant to build itself around Pogba. Nor did I think Pogba ever seemed to suggest he would stay here long-term. It was nice to joke around about it... but Pogba always seemed to be on borrowed-time here.

Dybala seems different. The outlay to get him, the faith the club showed with spending more on him than any player in recent times, as a 21 year old. Dybala really does seem the face of the franchise for the post-Gigi era. And I think he'll be much happier with that than Pogba. Especially if we continue to grow and build a European powerhouse over the next few years.

I honestly think there is a huge difference with Pogba and Dybala and how the club sees them, and our managements willingness to sell them. I'd bet we do pull a Bayern-Ribery with Dybala if it comes to it, but I think Dybala is much more likely to stay here, and be happy to do so, as long as we continue to succeed, and challenge on all fronts.

 

[Signora Omicidi]

He won't leave.I can't believe you are falling for these bullshits.

 

[Albo]

But this is what we need to avoid. Not succumbing to players wishes, when they have long term contract here. Otherwise we'll always play catching up with top clubs around Europe.

Yep, he has 3 years left on his contract , who gives a fuck if he wants more money , he shouldn't have signed contract in the 1st place .

I wouldn't even offer him higher salary , 3 years are enough .

 

[am0110]

De Gea wanted to leave too, but Man UTD forced him to stay .


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Thats how you act and keep your best players.Juventus should not supose to be some charity organisation where you ask to leave and your wishes come true right away.