Paul Pogba (113 Viewers)

[Xperd]

Absolutely not. You should have watched Maradona to understand what a leader really is.

It isn't just finding one or two great moments at specific times. Messi for Argentina is similar to Pogba in that aspect. But carrying one's team on one's shoulders from match to match, week in week out. That's a leader, know the difference.

Disagree with your notion that he only had 'magic moments' last season.

If that was the case, his 13-14 season wasn't any different.

I can say this with conviction that there was more consistency in his gameplay last yr and less erratic compared to 13-14.

No way he had a bad season.You're over-exaggerating.He's definitely improved from 13-14 season.

 

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[Juventino[RUS]]

Juventus lost the leader when Del Piero was kicked out by Conte and co., and even him was the gentleman-leader, while we need someone like Di Livio,Conte or Montero, the real fighter and the leader

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Disagree with your notion that he only had 'magic moments' last season.

If that was the case, his 13-14 season wasn't any different.

I can say this with conviction that there was more consistency in his gameplay last yr and less erratic compared to 13-14.

No way he had a bad season.You're over-exaggerating.He's definitely improved from 13-14 season.

 

[Xperd]

And I said he started to look like a leader not IS one already.I can take quite a few scrub Serie A games as an example

He was much more imposing for sure.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Disagree with your notion that he only had 'magic moments' last season.

If that was the case, his 13-14 season wasn't any different.

I can say this with conviction that there was more consistency in his gameplay last yr and less erratic compared to 13-14.

No way he had a bad season.You're over-exaggerating.He's definitely improved from 13-14 season.

Didn't say he had a bad season. Said it was a step back from the season prior to that one.

Didn't say he only had magic moments last season. But that he had several average matches, was constantly having bad days/making bad decisions with his passing but still would pull a goal or the odd assist out of the blue.

And yes, he was fundamental at some important points of the season, especially in the CL. I'm not denying this. But between his oscilliating gameplay from 13-14 and 14-15, to me, he was much more consistent overall with his passing/driblling in the former, in a week to week basis.

 

[Lion]

i think it was during 2005 where man u fans had the same criticism of ronaldo. that he hwas too flashy and not consistent or involved enough in games.

he went on to be a monster.

hopefully paul does the same

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

And I said he started to look like a leader not IS one already.I can take quite a few scrub Serie A games as an example

He was much more imposing for sure.

From what i see he is not the leader, and when i say the leader i meant Conte, Montero, Di Livio, Keane, Vieira, Ibrahimovic etc.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

i think it was during 2005 where man u fans had the same criticism of ronaldo. that he hwas too flashy and not consistent or involved enough in games.

he went on to be a monster.

hopefully paul does the same

Hey, let's hope he does. There isn't a best time for him to step up than now that we lost Tevez/Pirlo/Vidal. I like the idea of a team built around him but he will need to up his game a lot.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Hey, let's hope he does. There isn't a best time for him to step up than now that we lost Tevez/Pirlo/Vidal. I like the idea of a team built around him but he will need to up his game a lot.

you can't build the squad around Pogba, it's just simple as that

 

[Xperd]

Didn't say he had a bad season. Said it was a step back from the season prior to that one.

Didn't say he only had magic moments last season. But that he had several average matches, was constantly having bad days/making bad decisions with his passing but still would pull a goal or the odd assist out of the blue.

And yes, he was fundamental at some important points of the season, especially in the CL. I'm not denying this. But between his oscilliating gameplay from 13-14 and 14-15, to me, he was much more consistent overall with his passing/driblling in the former, in a week to week basis.

Let's agree to disagree.

I firmly believe he's improved his overall game from 13-14, I can say this with surety by just watching him.I don't need an analysis to describe his performances over the past yr.
And he will continue to improve ofcourse.

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you can't build the squad around Pogba, it's just simple as that

Still think he'll be sold next yr but let's hope not.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

OFC he will be sold for 80m to Barcelona, it's a done deal

 

[Xperd]

We rejected €80m offer.What are you on about

 

[Alin]

Let's not get over ourselfs with Pogba , since when is he the subject of criticism? Since not long ago he was this wonderkid all Juventus fans were cheering for , remember "Non si vende Pogba" against Sampdoria ? You think people just sing that for no reason ? As for now he is a very important asset in our time , he provides quality and strength.
If it is anyone to point fingers towards is Raiola. That rat face just messed up with his brain the past 6 months , didn't let him play his game , i just have the feeling Raiola is the kind of guy who teaches kids when is the right time to make a show and when is not , to show more or less to keep enthusiasm and excitement alive , all was good untill 6 months ago , when he crossed the line , while we were in a fight for the Champions league this guy was making news headlines about how Pogba is worth 100 mil and whoever pays it takes him , come on people , he is just 22 years old ! You think he doesn't hear all the news and crap around him ? He is human and has feelings , right now looks like he is decided to stay with us for at least this season , its as best for him as for us for him to play a perfect game , so let's give him a chance , he will play a big role in this season if all the rumours get lost for a while , and by that i mean if Raiola shuts his mouth for the nest 6-10 months!!

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

We rejected €80m offer.What are you on about

we didn't, it was offer around 60m, and since Bartomeu has been re-elected he will move for Pogba in the next summer, they have money, they can easily sign him and juventus cant say no cause you have to sell if someone is offers you 80m

 

[Xperd]

Both Marotta and Braida confirmed an €80m offer was rejected.Where are you getting your info from ?
He won't be sold for less than €100m next yr.That I'm sure of.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Both Marotta and Braida confirmed an €80m offer was rejected.Where are you getting your info from ?
He won't be sold for less than €100m next yr.That I'm sure of.

depends on his form, stats etc., barcelona have a need to replace iniesta

 

[juvefan]

Iniesta + 1xx mil would do it

 

[Ocelot]

Didn't say he had a bad season. Said it was a step back from the season prior to that one.

Didn't say he only had magic moments last season. But that he had several average matches, was constantly having bad days/making bad decisions with his passing but still would pull a goal or the odd assist out of the blue.

And yes, he was fundamental at some important points of the season, especially in the CL. I'm not denying this. But between his oscilliating gameplay from 13-14 and 14-15, to me, he was much more consistent overall with his passing/driblling in the former, in a week to week basis.

I think you're overrating his 13/14 season a bit. I men I can see where you're coming from with the "average" games that he had quite a few of (although virtually every player has them), but those were almost a bit more common in the 13/14 season.

Also, read the posts in this thread from autumn last year, most people agreed that in that phase of the year he had become much more consistent in his overall play with less individual, game-changing moments. That of course changed in january, which was his best month by far and where he was easily our best player, and later to the worse with his injury, but I'd claim he has become a lot more consistent this season compared to the last. Pre-injury of course.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

I think you're overrating his 13/14 season a bit. I men I can see where you're coming from with the "average" games that he had quite a few of (although virtually every player has them), but those were almost a bit more common in the 13/14 season.

Also, read the posts in this thread from autumn last year, most people agreed that in that phase of the year he had become much more consistent in his overall play with less individual, game-changing moments. That of course changed in january, which was his best month by far and where he was easily our best player, and later to the worse with his injury, but I'd claim he has become a lot more consistent this season compared to the last. Pre-injury of course.

We'll agree to disagree then. But we can agree on this, with 3 of our most important players gone it's time for him to step up, grab the opportunity and take the responsibility as his own. Apart from a few occasions he seems to be a very matured kid, so i don't see why he wouldn't manage it.

He's still young but not 19 years old young. So he's getting to that age where consistency is expected and i think he'll deliver.

 

[DelPiero no10]

i would move him to am, if he will start 2 produce assists then his status and price will jump to/over 100m price tag easily, the who football world is lacking on trequartistas that's forsure

Its not, there's a lot of good trequartistsa talent out there but somehow clubs seem intent on not using them that way. Everyone is obsessed with wingers and have no great central game.

Insigne, Gotze, Ljajic, Fekir, Bojan, Morrison, Dennis Suarez, Markovic are all players with genuine world class treq talent, yet most aren't being used to the optimum level and hence aren't being the players they're supposed to be.

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Anyone that thinks that Pogba was better in 13/14 than he was in 14/15 doesn't have their head screwed on right.

 

[Valerio.]

Its not, there's a lot of good trequartistsa talent out there but somehow clubs seem intent on not using them that way. Everyone is obsessed with wingers and have no great central game.

Insigne, Gotze, Ljajic, Fekir, Bojan, Morrison, Dennis Suarez, Markovic are all players with genuine world class treq talent, yet most aren't being used to the optimum level and hence aren't being the players they're supposed to be.

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Anyone that thinks that Pogba was better in 13/14 than he was in 14/15 doesn't have their head screwed on right.

Many would simply because he missed 2months due to injury