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How many minutes will he play for jj in 23-24 season?


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campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
17,122
Ronaldo moved the Coca Cola and nobody said anything, he set the precedent. Pogba tried it, maybe he was sincere in his intentions but who actually knows? The hate for Pogba is strong so much that some sad bastard will be going through every single Pogba photo looking for alcohol advertisements. Why do people get so triggered?
:agree: The hate this guy gets here is unreal.
 

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BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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Thank you. Seems insane to me that anyone would even consider Pogba over Vidal. On the pitch, Pogba has never even been half the player. Vidal in his prime here, was one of the best CMs I’ve watched play in 30 years. And he wasn’t far off that in his first couple years for you guys. Immense player. Pogba doesn’t have the heart or grinta to ever come close.
Pogba is probably more talented which I have no problem admitting.

But in terms of desire, workrate, mentality and overall quality is Vidal just miles clear. Pogba can't defend for shit, Vidal is the complete midfielder.
 

Goodfella

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Nov 11, 2012
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Ronaldo moved the Coca Cola and nobody said anything, he set the precedent. Pogba tried it, maybe he was sincere in his intentions but who actually knows? The hate for Pogba is strong so much that some sad bastard will be going through every single Pogba photo looking for alcohol advertisements. Why do people get so triggered?
It fits the agenda, that's why the double standards kick in.
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Sorry Del Piero is a universal legend.
He’s one of the Champions League OGs.

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Usually I agree with most of your football opinions, but Pogba is one of those players who I can never dislike. I’d have him back in a heartbeat.
Universal? In what universe, most non juve casual fans i know see him as an overrated choker.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Pogba is probably more talented which I have no problem admitting.

But in terms of desire, workrate, mentality and overall quality is Vidal just miles clear. Pogba can't defend for shit, Vidal is the complete midfielder.
Pls stop exaggerating, a team with Pogba as one of it's leaders was seconds away from eliminating that same Bayern same year you praise Vidal for carrying (against Benfica lol), where he wasnt even the 5th best player. and that with like 5-6 calls going Bayerns way that directly influenced the end result. Vidal was a beast up until 2014, probably best mid in the world that 1-2 years, but after that he fell off. And while he was still great some years, Pogba has been better in their post 2014 careers, more often than not.

And please, if you take PI seriously in this subject its your own fault. He hates Pogba for how he left, when Vidal did it worse
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
17,122
Pls stop exaggerating, a team with Pogba as one of it's leaders was seconds away from eliminating that same Bayern same year you praise Vidal for carrying (against Benfica lol), where he wasnt even the 5th best player. and that with like 5-6 calls going Bayerns way that directly influenced the end result. Vidal was a beast up until 2014, probably best mid in the world that 1-2 years, but after that he fell off. And while he was still great some years, Pogba has been better in their post 2014 careers, more often than not.

And please, if you take PI seriously in this subject its your own fault. He hates Pogba for how he left, when Vidal did it worse
agree with everything but the last part. Vidal didn’t push for a transfer.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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:agree: The hate this guy gets here is unreal.
He’s representative of a clown generation of over-hyped, overrated, underperforming, social media clowns. His little crew at United. Pogba, Lingard, Rashford. Bunch of muppets. And all three have pretty much sucked for years now.

Pogba’s a joke of a footballer who shows up every few years for a few national team games than goes back on holiday, collecting a big paycheck while performing like garbage and not giving a shit. Guys like him are everything that is wrong with the modern game.
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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IIRC that bottle was even alcoholfree beer but it's not important. The important part is that Pogba with his pea brain thought that it was somehow heroical and not cringey to repeat the same action that CR7 did 3 hours ago, all while making commercials for Lays and Pepsi in the meantime :lol: Pogba is truly the Janus face to properly represent modern football.
Look at this intellectual discourse
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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Pls stop exaggerating, a team with Pogba as one of it's leaders was seconds away from eliminating that same Bayern same year you praise Vidal for carrying (against Benfica lol), where he wasnt even the 5th best player. and that with like 5-6 calls going Bayerns way that directly influenced the end result. Vidal was a beast up until 2014, probably best mid in the world that 1-2 years, but after that he fell off. And while he was still great some years, Pogba has been better in their post 2014 careers, more often than not.

And please, if you take PI seriously in this subject its your own fault. He hates Pogba for how he left, when Vidal did it worse
Pogba as a leader? I don't think such a thing exist. Maybe in FIFA Ultimate Team.

5-6 calls going Bayerns way? :lol3: Please.

I take people serious as long as they have a fair and objective opinion on the subject. And in this case Post Ironic certainly holds the high ground on the battlefield so to speak. You should surrender as he got the artillery looking down on you from above.

You should admit your situation and surrender.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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We already established that you can't give a meaningful counter argument to anything I say, so you stick to your petty attempts. Let's see if Bayernfan is more of a challenge, you have been eliminated in a gentleman sweep
We already established that you just outright lie about this stuff. Vidal at 35 when he’s still not 35. Signing Pogba on massive wages at the same age as Vidal was when we sold him, plus after two years where Pogba either was injured or sucked ass far worse than Vidal in 14-15. But keep going, Princess. Lick Pogba’s stinky ass a little more. :baus:
 
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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Pogba as a leader? I don't think such a thing exist. Maybe in FIFA Ultimate Team.

5-6 calls going Bayerns way? :lol3: Please.

I take people serious as long as they have a fair and objective opinion on the subject. And in this case Post Ironic certainly holds the high ground so to speak. You should surrender as he got the artillery looking down on you from above.

I won't say more.
You haven't watched Juve in 2016? Pirlo left, Vidal left, Tevez left. Pogba was one of the leaders of the new team. Khedira in and out all year, Marchisio missed start and end of the season, Pogba took the reigns of midfield over. You didn't watch us back then, and you don't watch France so you wouldn't know. Unless your idea of a leader is someone that just screams at others, maybe that's what you don't understand?

First leg
Pogba cross, Vidal handball in the box
Muller goal, Lewa infront of Buffon, offside
Lewa foul on Bonucci on the 2nd goal
2nd leg
Morata goal, offside

I forgot the other, there was 1-2 more, but it's easy to find, it's in the match threads here.

He has a clear agenda going on for years, mocks Pogba every chance he gets. Unlike me, I'm realistic. Notice that I never jump in when someone calls Pogba a moron, it's just when his on field impact is questioned. I can't blame you, you don't watch him/haven't watched him, so you go by popular opinion. It's wrong nonetheless but that's what you read most often here

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We already established that you just outright lie about this stuff. Vidal at 35 when he’s still not 35. Signing Pogba on massive wages at the same age as Vidal was when we sold him, plus after two years where Pogba either was injured or sucked ass far worse than Vidal in 14-15. But keep going, Princess. Lick Pogba’s stinky ass a little more. :baus:
Clutching at straws when everything else has been debunked. Ah, sweet sweet victory. Also saying stuff I didn't say. Also not understanding the contractual situation of both players and the clubs position in both scenarios. Classic PI. Write me when you have a solid argument instead of childish hate for a random football player
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
7,146
You haven't watched Juve in 2016? Pirlo left, Vidal left, Tevez left. Pogba was one of the leaders of the new team. Khedira in and out all year, Marchisio missed start and end of the season, Pogba took the reigns of midfield over. You didn't watch us back then, and you don't watch France so you wouldn't know. Unless your idea of a leader is someone that just screams at others, maybe that's what you don't understand?

First leg
Pogba cross, Vidal handball in the box
Muller goal, Lewa infront of Buffon, offside
Lewa foul on Bonucci on the 2nd goal
2nd leg
Morata goal, offside

I forgot the other, there was 1-2 more, but it's easy to find, it's in the match threads here.

He has a clear agenda going on for years, mocks Pogba every chance he gets. Unlike me, I'm realistic. Notice that I never jump in when someone calls Pogba a moron, it's just when his on field impact is questioned. I can't blame you, you don't watch him/haven't watched him, so you go by popular opinion. It's wrong nonetheless but that's what you read most often here

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Clutching at straws when everything else has been debunked. Ah, sweet sweet victory. Also saying stuff I didn't say. Also not understanding the contractual situation of both players and the clubs position in both scenarios. Classic PI. Write me when you have a solid argument instead of childish hate for a random football player
Pogba is not a leader and never will be. Leading is not only screaming at your teammates but also leading by example. Pogba never lead anything by example apart from his Instagram.

About the things going our way:

1: The handball was never a penalty, his arm was in a natural position. Never in a million years is that a penalty.

2: Lewa wasn't blocking that much, he wasn't trying to obstruct Buffon at any time. You can argue it should be disallowed but it wasn't and most of these sort of goals stands. Lewa is with a distance of two meters to Buffon, not next to him. You can argue for it being the wrong call but it's not a clear cut situation.

3: The one on Bonucci could be a foul, agreed. But it's not like you couldn't prevent Robben from cutting inside as he didn't score just a second after. It took close to 15 seconds so you had plenty of time to sort it out. You can also argue Bonucci is the one backing into the run of Lewa as he takes a step into him running towards him. So Bonucci is actually the one trying to obstruct Lewa but fails. Notice how Pogba jogs back literally not giving a shit :lol3:


4: Yes that was an obvious mistake, that goal should never have been disallowed. But all the others are 50/50 calls and there's no clear mistake in them.

The others I don't know and as you can't remember them they're probably not even notable or noteworthy.

Anyway I don't hate or dislike Pogba. I just don't rate him like a prime Vidal as he never showed to have a package as complete as the Chilean. Pogba probably has better skills and maybe vision but Vidal is certainly not poor at giving a good long or through ball. He just stands out for so much more.

Pogba needs a hardworking midfielder besides him else he's lost or even worse his team is having a hard time to control the game. Thank fuck he got Kante to do all the work for him.
 
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JuveE46

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Dec 6, 2015
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How much I like pogba vs cost.

A=@20 Salam alaikum welcome pogster

B=@40 we can see a significant drop but still Salam alaikum good deal in today's market your locker is next to Cuads learn something oh and he makes your 1/10

C= @50-55 we can see even more of a drop in interest and questions arise like "what are you fucking kidding me Mino you fat fuck?" Etc.

D and E= @80-100 equivalent of the vault being open at Juventus headquarters at night and a cleaning lady accidently putting two bags containing 50m each in the garbage.


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