Paul Pogba (255 Viewers)

[AndreaCristiano]

But you can also say that the players he played with were better because Paul was there

Not really. When pirlo vidal left Paul struggled greatly. It took him a while to readjust. In the end the player who we had trouble when out was khedira

 

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[Vlad]

Which is why I think that you need a Herrera and Matic types of players to play next to Pjanic in the midfield.

Pjanic can provide the assits, Matic the tackles and interceptions, and Herrera to just be a madman out there.

But can't you see how much we'd lose with this change? We renounce the set up that brought us success in the first place, our WBs like Sandro and Alves will have less freedom to maraud forward, 3 man backline with Barza-Bonbon-Chiello, that has provided this team with stability over the years.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Names? Replacing Pogs as B2B?

What does that have to do with what I posted

 

[Vlad]

But you also have to take into consideration the squad he's on and surrounding players

Mascherano doesn't have good players around him?

 

[Hydde]

I just love how all of a sudden everyone is saying Pogs isn't that good anyway. Predictable really

He has weaknesses which deter his gameplay greatly. If he wants to be a great, he needs to improve this. IMO he is very good and very special..but he has a big chance of failing if things doesnt go his way.

Is not like with players like Zidane, Ronaldo and Messi for ex...who gave zero fucks about what was going on around them and just make things happen. Pogs is some years away to reach that point

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Mascherano doesn't have good players around him?

Never said that he actually has other players that pick up some of that work that's why his numbers are lower.

 

[KB824]

But can't you see how much we'd lose with this change? We renounce the set up that brought us success in the first place, our WBs like Sandro and Alves will have less freedom to maraud forward, 3 man backline with Barza-Bonbon-Chiello, that has provided this team with stability over the years.

But for the sake of pure fantasy, if Paul gets replaced with Herrera and Matic, and considering the other players brought in, I think that this team in its totality is better overall than last years.

Of course things will change somewhat, but if you have a stalwart like Matic anchoring the defensive responsibilities of the midfield, I think that Alves and Alex Sandro will still have that freedom

 

[duranfj]

Not at all. He had 21 g&a last season and averages 2.2 tackles, 1.4 interceptions. According to some here Mascherano is the worlds best DM and he had 2.6 tackles and 2.2 interceptions.

Don't bother to explain. They r in denial. Pogs is amazing not only in stats but in almost every important point inside a field. Positioning, gringa, covering spare, cutting pressure lines, serial duels and keep going and going

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

He has weaknesses which deter his gameplay greatly. If he wants to be a great, he needs to improve this. IMO he is very good and very special..but he has a big chance of failing if things doesnt go his way.

Is not like with players like Zidane, Ronaldo and Messi for ex...who gave zero fucks about what was going on around them and just make things happen. Pogs is some years away to reach that point

Does he have to improve? Yes. But let's not throw him under the bus now that he's leaving. Same thing happened with Morata and Vidal.

 

[Amer]

If Pogba leaves at this point of the Mercato, we can't buy a quality CM without some serious overpaying. Nainggolan and similar mids would cost 60 million.

 

[Vlad]

Never said that he actually has other players that pick up some of that work that's why his numbers are lower.

:confused2

That's weird logic. If you're surrounded by good players, the level of your game drops.

 

[Klovn]

I love reading Ratcafe. You would think that we where there bitches from the majority of their posts.

If the rumors are right Manufacturing Union spend 145 mil. euro and 13 mil. euro in net wages for Pogba.

We spend 143 mil. euro: 90 mil. (Higuain), 30 mil. (Pjanic), 23 mil. (Pjaca); Net wages 14 mil. euro: 7,5 mil. (Higuain), 4,5 mil (Pjanic), 2 mil. (Pjaca).

I am a big Pogba fan but he is simply not worth that much. For hes price and wages, we got a 28 year old top 3 CF (and yes he is 28), a 26 year old WC CM/AM, and a 21 year old AM/SS/LW/RW who is one of the biggest talents I Europe.

We got Pogba for 800.000 euro and sold him to the same team for 145 mil. euro. In the mean time he helped us to win 4 scudettis, and helped us to restore our place as a European powerhouse. I guess its a matter of perspective, to who is fucking who in the ass.

Thank you Pogba for all you have done. I hope you enjoy EL and the scintillating atmosphere at "the theatre of silence". To all the Union fans a big "fuck you", I hope you enjoy having 3 Raiola players, that he will try to sell every year, while at the same time have the worlds most disgusting has been of a manager.

 

[Hydde]

Does he have to improve? Yes. But let's not throw him under the bus now that he's leaving. Same thing happened with Morata and Vidal.

I think no one is doing that?. Where you got that idea?.

All of us want him to stay because he is good...is just that no way in hell he is worth 14o miks...not even close.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

:confused2

That's weird logic. If you're surrounded by good players, the level of your game drops.

No but if the other players are playing at your level they are also taking some of your workload. When vidal was here Pogba had help with the tackles etc last season he didn't so he had to do more

 

[KB824]

And to people who think that Pogba is not a great player

 

[Post Ironic]

But can't you see how much we'd lose with this change? We renounce the set up that brought us success in the first place, our WBs like Sandro and Alves will have less freedom to maraud forward, 3 man backline with Barza-Bonbon-Chiello, that has provided this team with stability over the years.

And I think you're exaggerating the effects of losing Pogba.

And this is coming from a guy who thought Pogba was the best midfielder in football for the last 2-3 months of this past season.

If we get a couple mids, say Herrera and Matic, or something along those lines, I think this team is improved.

Adding into the starting XI:

Herrera + Matic + Higuain + Alves

makes us better than this season with:

Mandzukic/Morata + Pogba

It's all hypothetical though. We don't know Pogba is leaving. We don't know what mids we would replace him with, and so on. Wait and see is the best option now. Either way, I refuse to meltdown this summer. I did that enough last summer, between losing a CL final, and losing the core of our midfield and attack.

 

[Vlad]

No but if the other players are playing at your level they are also taking some of your workload. When vidal was here Pogba had help with the tackles etc last season he didn't so he had to do more

He had 2.2 tackles a year before, with Vidal here.

 

[Post Ironic]

I love reading Ratcafe. You would think that we where there bitches from the majority of their posts.

If the rumors are right Manufacturing Union spend 145 mil. euro and 13 mil. euro in net wages for Pogba.

We spend 143 mil. euro: 90 mil. (Higuain), 30 mil. (Pjanic), 23 mil. (Pjaca); Net wages 14 mil. euro: 7,5 mil. (Higuain), 4,5 mil (Pjanic), 2 mil. (Pjaca).

I am a big Pogba fan but he is simply not worth that much. For hes price and wages, we got a 28 year old top 3 CF (and yes he is 28), a 26 year old WC CM/AM, and a 21 year old AM/SS/LW/RW who is one of the biggest talents I Europe.

We got Pogba for 800.000 euro and sold him to the same team for 145 mil. euro. In the mean time he helped us to win 4 scudettis, and helped us to restore our place as a European powerhouse. I guess its a matter of perspective, to who is fucking who in the ass.

Thank you Pogba for all you have done. I hope you enjoy EL and the scintillating atmosphere at "the theatre of silence". To all the Union fans a big "fuck you", I hope you enjoy having 3 Raiola players, that he will try to sell every year, while at the same time have the worlds most disgusting has been of a manager.

 

[zizinho]

Not at all. He had 21 g&a last season and averages 2.2 tackles, 1.4 interceptions. According to some here Mascherano is the worlds best DM and he had 2.6 tackles and 2.2 interceptions.

25 in all competitions (10 goals, 15 assists)

 

[duranfj]

What does that have to do with what I posted

@DelPiero84 said we can't replace pogs and you said he were overrating him? So please I wonder who u would rate enough to take Pogs place?