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I'd like to be that despot.
I'd like to be that despot.
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Me too, IZ. Me too.
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Russians are cheap traitors. I can't believe how fast they sold Gedaffi, from being against NATO's actions in Libya, from being the only one to say Gedaffi shouldn't be targeted to now saying Gedaffi has to leave for there to be peace in Libya 
They've always been cheap traitors, they sold out the Arab nations in the 1973 war against Israel too(the soviet union that time).
They've always been cheap traitors, they sold out the Arab nations in the 1973 war against Israel too(the soviet union that time).
Russians are cheap traitors. I can't believe how fast they sold Gedaffi, from being against NATO's actions in Libya, from being the only one to say Gedaffi shouldn't be targeted to now saying Gedaffi has to leave for there to be peace in Libya
They've always been cheap traitors, they sold out the Arab nations in the 1973 war against Israel too(the soviet union that time).
They've always been cheap traitors, they sold out the Arab nations in the 1973 war against Israel too(the soviet union that time).
Ya, i thought they were really with that dog Gedaffi at first. At the start of the Libyan revolution they maintained that they don't agree with removing Gedaffi from power, that was their official position for a few months, then i was shocked to see them say they want Gedaffi out a month ago and that there can be no peace with him in power
Growth? The United States is technically having positive GDP growth. It doesn't mean anything unless it is sustained growth without help of cheap government money. During the Great Depression, the US had several quarters of positive GDP growth.
Here's a simple question for you. If Austria, Poland, Estonia, et cetera are doing so fiscally well, why is the price of insuring their debt trending higher?
Nigel Farage is spot on, IMO. But I'm sure most folks in the EU hate his guts anyway, so I guess there isn't any point in discussing him as the ad hominem attacks will begin flowing again.
It absolutely, positively, does. I'm not going to go on and on about why macroeconomics is the most important facet of one's life, but without a proper economy, you are destined to failure. There isn't any point to an Economic Union unless it doesn't benefit you financially. What's so fucking hard to understand about that?
I guess you haven't read any of my posts regarding the US economy in oh, maybe about four years.
But if this is how we're going to roll, aren't you the same guy that told me that Ireland was going to be fine a year and a half ago, or so? Yes, you were. You told me to respect your government's plan because I know nothing about it.
Sound Familiar?
You Europeans are exactly like Americans. You lot are so arrogant that even though you can see the mistakes, you still have so much enthusiasm for your union that you simply can't admit to fault. It's just like the Americans claiming we could never enter another Great Depression or lose our world reserve currency status, or what have you. The arrogance doesn't allow for corrections, which means the only result is failure.
French banks have too much exposure in the Euro debt crisis. As cash flow dries up due to further credit crunches as the sovereign debt crises continue, the French banks will feel the pain and their politicians will pass the pain down to the public, just like everywhere else. The battle will eventually arrive at their doorstep, too. Mark my words. The UK banks are just like US banks and are only keeping up the illusion of solvency by cheap money and funky accounting principles. Sweden? Sure, I'll give you Sweden... but they still have the relatively strong Krona, which further proves my point regarding the Euro currency. It's a failure.
The only reason Europe can compete with the US now is because we have collectively taken a bazooka to our productive capacity and unleashed an army of free lunch zombies who expect the government to solve all our economic problems. So I don't agree at all. And in fact, if you look at the statistics of some of your member states, economically they are in worse shape than they were prior to joining the EU in the first place.
That has no bearing at all in anything. If I was anti-EU just because I'm an American, I'd say stay the course and start running an EU flag up the flagpole everyday, because you lot are doing well enough in destroying your future and providing support to a US dollar that is being debased by our own central bank. So yeah, keep it going then! EU4LIFE!
So why don't you enlighten us on how wonderful the EU economies are then, since you seem to know quite a lot about it.
Here's a simple question for you. If Austria, Poland, Estonia, et cetera are doing so fiscally well, why is the price of insuring their debt trending higher?
Nigel Farage is spot on, IMO. But I'm sure most folks in the EU hate his guts anyway, so I guess there isn't any point in discussing him as the ad hominem attacks will begin flowing again.
It absolutely, positively, does. I'm not going to go on and on about why macroeconomics is the most important facet of one's life, but without a proper economy, you are destined to failure. There isn't any point to an Economic Union unless it doesn't benefit you financially. What's so fucking hard to understand about that?
I don't know wether your newly apparent nationalist tendencies have made you into a 'USA no 1' looking to jump on any opportunity to espouse your doctrine but in this instance you're wide of the mark 
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But if this is how we're going to roll, aren't you the same guy that told me that Ireland was going to be fine a year and a half ago, or so? Yes, you were. You told me to respect your government's plan because I know nothing about it.
Sound Familiar?
You Europeans are exactly like Americans. You lot are so arrogant that even though you can see the mistakes, you still have so much enthusiasm for your union that you simply can't admit to fault. It's just like the Americans claiming we could never enter another Great Depression or lose our world reserve currency status, or what have you. The arrogance doesn't allow for corrections, which means the only result is failure.
French banks have too much exposure in the Euro debt crisis. As cash flow dries up due to further credit crunches as the sovereign debt crises continue, the French banks will feel the pain and their politicians will pass the pain down to the public, just like everywhere else. The battle will eventually arrive at their doorstep, too. Mark my words. The UK banks are just like US banks and are only keeping up the illusion of solvency by cheap money and funky accounting principles. Sweden? Sure, I'll give you Sweden... but they still have the relatively strong Krona, which further proves my point regarding the Euro currency. It's a failure.
The only reason Europe can compete with the US now is because we have collectively taken a bazooka to our productive capacity and unleashed an army of free lunch zombies who expect the government to solve all our economic problems. So I don't agree at all. And in fact, if you look at the statistics of some of your member states, economically they are in worse shape than they were prior to joining the EU in the first place.
That has no bearing at all in anything. If I was anti-EU just because I'm an American, I'd say stay the course and start running an EU flag up the flagpole everyday, because you lot are doing well enough in destroying your future and providing support to a US dollar that is being debased by our own central bank. So yeah, keep it going then! EU4LIFE!
An American talking shit about the EU economies 
He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones...
He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones...
Man this is ridiculous ! I just saw photos of Norway main prison, were they put the guy in there. its insane ! 
This is the prison :
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/norway-prison.jpg
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/norway-prison-6.jpg
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/norwegian-prison-3.jpg
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/shower.jpg
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/dining-hall.jpg
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/norwegian-prison-2.jpg
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/norwegian-prison-4.jpg
http://theworldsbestever.com/blog/w.../03/halden-prison-norway-recording-studio.jpg
They have mini-fridge,Flat TVs, showers, Designer furniture including a work desk in their room. also libraries, school, chapel, gym, training ground, Basketball court, soccer field, seprate family visiting center, climbing walls, and for god sake they they even got recording studios! They spend a million dollar for arts inside of the prison !! give they guy some internet and he will have a better life than me
This is the prison :
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/norway-prison.jpg
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/norway-prison-6.jpg
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/norwegian-prison-3.jpg
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/shower.jpg
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/dining-hall.jpg
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/norwegian-prison-2.jpg
http://todayilearned.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/norwegian-prison-4.jpg
http://theworldsbestever.com/blog/w.../03/halden-prison-norway-recording-studio.jpg
They have mini-fridge,Flat TVs, showers, Designer furniture including a work desk in their room. also libraries, school, chapel, gym, training ground, Basketball court, soccer field, seprate family visiting center, climbing walls, and for god sake they they even got recording studios! They spend a million dollar for arts inside of the prison !! give they guy some internet and he will have a better life than me
Growth? The United States is technically having positive GDP growth. It doesn't mean anything unless it is sustained growth without help of cheap government money. During the Great Depression, the US had several quarters of positive GDP growth.
Here's a simple question for you. If Austria, Poland, Estonia, et cetera are doing so fiscally well, why is the price of insuring their debt trending higher?
Nigel Farage is spot on, IMO. But I'm sure most folks in the EU hate his guts anyway, so I guess there isn't any point in discussing him as the ad hominem attacks will begin flowing again.
It absolutely, positively, does. I'm not going to go on and on about why macroeconomics is the most important facet of one's life, but without a proper economy, you are destined to failure. There isn't any point to an Economic Union unless it doesn't benefit you financially. What's so fucking hard to understand about that?
I guess you haven't read any of my posts regarding the US economy in oh, maybe about four years.
But if this is how we're going to roll, aren't you the same guy that told me that Ireland was going to be fine a year and a half ago, or so? Yes, you were. You told me to respect your government's plan because I know nothing about it.
Sound Familiar?
You Europeans are exactly like Americans. You lot are so arrogant that even though you can see the mistakes, you still have so much enthusiasm for your union that you simply can't admit to fault. It's just like the Americans claiming we could never enter another Great Depression or lose our world reserve currency status, or what have you. The arrogance doesn't allow for corrections, which means the only result is failure.
Here's a simple question for you. If Austria, Poland, Estonia, et cetera are doing so fiscally well, why is the price of insuring their debt trending higher?
Nigel Farage is spot on, IMO. But I'm sure most folks in the EU hate his guts anyway, so I guess there isn't any point in discussing him as the ad hominem attacks will begin flowing again.
It absolutely, positively, does. I'm not going to go on and on about why macroeconomics is the most important facet of one's life, but without a proper economy, you are destined to failure. There isn't any point to an Economic Union unless it doesn't benefit you financially. What's so fucking hard to understand about that?
I guess you haven't read any of my posts regarding the US economy in oh, maybe about four years.
But if this is how we're going to roll, aren't you the same guy that told me that Ireland was going to be fine a year and a half ago, or so? Yes, you were. You told me to respect your government's plan because I know nothing about it.
Sound Familiar?
You Europeans are exactly like Americans. You lot are so arrogant that even though you can see the mistakes, you still have so much enthusiasm for your union that you simply can't admit to fault. It's just like the Americans claiming we could never enter another Great Depression or lose our world reserve currency status, or what have you. The arrogance doesn't allow for corrections, which means the only result is failure.
Why are their DI costs going up? probably got something to do with the speculative cartelisation of global finance. You're using third party insurers raising premiums as the measure of economic stability? So we're using that as the measure of broke? that's fine, I just wanted to be sure you weren't basing it of Growth or Debt or Deficits or something that comes from you know, facts, rather than speculation. That's fine though, you're entitled to do that but I'm also entitled to look at a combined set of factors and draw my own conclusions. By cheap government money I'm assuming you're talking about QE or Centralised capitalisation of member states banks or what?
Nigel Farage? vested interest and I think he's wrong, that's all I'll say.
The EU and the EMU aren't the same thing
No, it really is not, in fact it's evidenced by this very crisis where what was politically palatable was chosen over what was economically necessary. On your second point I completely 100% agree with you. Ireland should not be in the EMU, EU yes, EMU no. Like I said, it's pointless to subscribe to a currency that you can't control within a currency union that you don't even trade with. It's fucking stupid and is why we're fucked right now.
You're wrong, I read every post and every article that you post re: Global Economics, except the krugman stuff. We haven't Defaulted, I'm sure that's what I said and i even said it before we Nationalised all the banks with I'm pretty sure added over 40Bn to our debt. That's a fact by the way, we haven't defaulted which according the the market should have happened a year ago. A bailout and a default aren't the same thing
. Still fucked though, I'm not going to argue the Irish economy is some sort of dynamo for others to be in awe of, because it's not.
It's in a process of 'rebooting'. I dare say it could go back to the markets by 2013 as planned but that depends on the budget. It's 90/10 Cuts and Taxes to Stimulus at the moment which is stupid with a 14% unemployment rate Could not agree more with you there, except I think the US is a tad more arrogant given their global supremacy.
I'm fairly certain we just went around in circles there, anyway:
In one sentence, kind of: The political will of the EU and it's place in the lives of Europeans in an important factor to consider, along with economics. If you think the whole thing is going to collapse around us, you have, like I said, underestimated the will of the Franco-german axis
I'll send your check in the mail.Fuck it, I can't be bother checking all your footnotes anyway
Back on topic. This guy wrote in his manifesto that he admires George Pell (former Australian Archbishop), Peter Costello (former Australian treasurer) and John Howard (former Australian prime minister) for their stance of refugees and Muslims in Australia. This just consolidates what I've been saying since I was 10 years old about the three mention. Our liberal party obviously has a racist culture which has ultimately contributed to hate filled attacks.
Back on topic. This guy wrote in his manifesto that he admires George Pell (former Australian Archbishop), Peter Costello (former Australian treasurer) and John Howard (former Australian prime minister) for their stance of refugees and Muslims in Australia. This just consolidates what I've been saying since I was 10 years old about the three mention. Our liberal party obviously has a racist culture which has ultimately contributed to hate filled attacks.