Oslo Bombing (16 Viewers)

[Fred]

As many people die in Middle East and Afghanistan everyday, but no one cares about that.

People care, they just get used to it.

Its like Mathew says, its bigger news in Norway because it is normally a peaceful country. My country Libya is facing what Norway faced a couple of days ago almost every day, but that has been the case ever since February so its probably understandable that the Norway news gets more attention these days.

 

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[IrishZebra]

Plus the Media subconsciously values white lives over those of non-european extraction, Maddeline McCann would be a prime example of the world going apeshit over a little white girl going missing but not giving a fuck about the dozens of sex slaves traffic that same day.

 

[Elvin]

white people > rest

 

[Fred]

Plus the Media subconsciously values white lives over those of non-european extraction, Maddeline McCann would be a prime example of the world going apeshit over a little white girl going missing but not giving a fuck about the dozens of sex slaves traffic that same day.

I think that is quite normal. The Oslo bombing didn't get as much coverage as events in Libya and Syria too, so for us Arab lives >> Infidel whites

 

[IrishZebra]

Yeah, over here it's like "yeah, Syria, 2m people march yesterday, do something fresh'

 

[Fred]

Btw, most Gedaffi supporting English facebook groups consist mainly of Irish. Extremely annoying fuckers, is that due to him supporting the IRA in the past?

 

[IrishZebra]

Yeah this is them

http://www.eirigi.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32_County_Sovereignty_Movement

The working class thinking they can understand politics

 

[Bjerknes]

The EU is much, much more than the Euro. Sweden, Denmark, UK are not even in the Eurozone, so the EU will survive regardless of the Euro.

It might, or it might not. I wouldn't be too sure when 90% of the member states are essentially broke. I mean, the whole stated point of the EU is to promote economic and social progress after all, so at the very least they aren't delivering on one of their promises.

Globalism is a cancer that needs to be squashed.

 

[Raz]

Why are some of you fixating what said what? Is it so important? The fact remains the same no matter what they report or say, innocent people died.

Condolences to the affected families and friends and may their loved ones rest in peace.

 

[IrishZebra]

It might, or it might not. I wouldn't be too sure when 90% of the member states are essentially broke. I mean, the whole stated point of the EU is to promote economic and social progress after all, so at the very least they aren't delivering on one of their promises.

Globalism is a cancer that needs to be squashed.

How versed politically are you on the EU or are you talking simply from an economist's point of view?

Netherlands,Poland,Sweden,Austria,Denmark,Czech Republic,Romania,Slovakia,Luxembourg,Slovenia,Bulgaria,Latvia, Lithuania,Cyprus,Estonia,Malta.

None of those countries are 'broke' as you put it. How do we define being broke, I'm assuming meaning defaulted in all but name, that would be Ireland,Portugal and Greece, soon to be Italy and Spain if the markets are correct. That's 18%, not 90%. If you're talking about debt as a percentage of GDP, what percentage? Growth? Again, most states are in positive growth. Deficits? Not too many deficits outside of the pigs.

Whatever measure you're using, you're overestimating the problem whilst being ignorant of the E.U. and it's stability as an institution. The fact that you quote Nigel Fag-rage who is a moron and in fact a hog at the Eu troth makes you seem more like a Fox News fan than a educated man.

You're seeing what you want to see, without fully understanding the political side. Not everything revolves around macroeconomics. I don't know wether your newly apparent nationalist tendencies have made you into a 'USA no 1' looking to jump on any opportunity to espouse your doctrine but in this instance you're wide of the mark int:

We both live in Bankrupt countries, almost to the same % extent of GDP. I know why my country is the way it is, and it's got nothing to do with what you're saying, it's purely down to clientalism and miss-management. If you actually took the time to look at the Irish economy in any manner of depth you'd realise that it is structured differently from Portugal and Greece and our recovery will be multi-sectoral, although lead by manufacturing in all probability.

One thing I will say, Ireland being in the Euro is retarded, our largest trading partners are the US and UK, both non-euro countries.

 

[Zlatan]

It might, or it might not. I wouldn't be too sure when 90% of the member states are essentially broke. I mean, the whole stated point of the EU is to promote economic and social progress after all, so at the very least they aren't delivering on one of their promises.

Globalism is a cancer that needs to be squashed.

You mean like the US? And apart from Greece which is doing really poorly, and perhaps Ireland, Spain and Portugal, other states seem to be doing quite OK. Germany, France, UK, Benelux countries, Sweden, Denmark...


Plus, the EU I would say has promoted economic and social progress, the economy is more than able to compete with the US, which was the main goal, and the quality of life in Europe is higher than in the US, so they've done quite well in both economic and social progress. Question is, where would these countries be without the EU? Probably in worse shape than they are.


BTW, an American being anti-EU? What a shock!

 

[Hængebøffer]

An American talking shit about the EU economies
He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones...

 

[IrishZebra]

he's right that the EU is in economic difficulty, he's just over-estimating the extent

 

[Dostoevsky]

US is economically dead and EU looks more stable. That doesn't mean that EU won't shrink as soon as the US dies.

Ireland, Spain, Italy and Portugal have made huge losses and they are entering the red line, which can hurt EU a lot. I don't think they are that great and I don't think they are doing anything to be proud of.

Bring back gold standard.

 

[IrishZebra]

You forgot Greece

Dus, now Hadzic is being brought to justice do you think the undercurrent of anti-western hatred in Serbia will explode when EU entry is mooted? Especially considering the large scale genocide denial.

 

[Dostoevsky]

You forgot Greece

Dus, now Hadzic is being brought to justice do you think the undercurrent of anti-western hatred in Serbia will explode when EU entry is mooted? Especially considering the large scale genocide denial.

I didn't, I wrote them off

I hate politics. I don't think democracy exists and it's just one guy controlling the puppets. I'd say about 50% of population would say no the EU and especially entering NATO. Not a big fuss was made when Hadzic was arrested, getting Karadzic on the other hand did hurt a lot many people. Denial was expected but Serbia did their part when they handed all war criminals and we're seeing a gate open far ahead. They say it's a huge step forward but I think it's rather unrealistic to expect us become a part of EU any time soon. There are elections next year so democratic party might be taken off and we could see new fellas in charge due to the heat to be taken off, yet I don't expect any changes whatsoever.

 

[Nenz]

I can dream

Sounds like something that could only be ruled by an autocratic despot. Once freedom to practice religion goes, watch every other basic human right fall by the waste side.

 

[IrishZebra]

You don't have to join NATO to be in the EU, but I think you have to stop being Slavic Bumfriends with those Russian dickheads


Dammit Nenna let me have my Dream I'd like to be that despot.

 

[Dostoevsky]

You don't have to join NATO to be in the EU, but I think you have to stop being Slavic Bumfriends with those Russian dickheads

Dammit Nenna let me have my Dream I'd like to be that despot.

We were and still getting pressurised to get into NATO.

I'd stick next to the Russians any day.

 

[IrishZebra]

NATO doesn't pressurise anybody to join, it costs a lot of money to bring a country like Serbia up to speed, sounds more like propaganda.

Why? they're even more corrupt than Europe and they aren't nearly as powerful as they like to think they are. If push game to shove, Russia and her friends would be on the losing side.