Oh Sh*t, Here We Go (8 Viewers)

[Nzoric]

So go solve the problems instead of pestering us on Juventuz if you spent half your time doing something productive instead of being a tool on here maybe something good can come out of you

What the fuck is this? Are we discussing this subject or not? So because I'm hitting home with my points I should go away and do something with it? How about we start with you accepting that your premise is completely off, and we'll take it from there? How many books on middle eastern history in the 20th century have you read?

 

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[Fred]

Hey I didn't say all the operations were a success and I wasn't kidding I said it earlier we need to pull back. When I said we should allow them to off themselves I was serious

You shouldn't have been there in the first place.

I do not feel half sorry for any occupation soldier that gets blown off. On the complete contrary, i applaud it. People like you make me applaud it even more.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

How about all those deaths during US occupation. You do know that the US caused more deaths in Iraq than Saddam Hussein, right?

How about your relentless support for Zionist occupation?

the US government is nothing but the epitome of world evil right now.

I would like I see numbers with those statements and last time I checked Israel was Jewish land in scripture first then in the middle ages Muslims laid claim. Remember your religion is only 600+ years old

 

[Nzoric]

I don't like the "read a fucking book" and "tools like you" etc. That's all. Discussing is fine, but watch out for angry words

But he should read a fucking book, it's as simple as that. Sorry, but posts like those warrant heated discussion.

 

[Kate]

You shouldn't have been there in the first place.

I do not feel half sorry for any occupation soldier that gets blown off. On the complete contrary, i applaud it. People like you make me applaud it even more.

No. You don't know who those people are, why they're there, or what they've done. Yeah, some of them might be creeps, some of them might be family people. Applauding death in any way is disgusting.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

What the $#@! is this? Are we discussing this subject or not? So because I'm hitting home with my points I should go away and do something with it? How about we start with you accepting that your premise is completely off, and we'll take it from there? How many books on middle eastern history in the 20th century have you read?

Yes discussion implies people listening to each others points not being arrogant like you and talking down to people who may not agree or know everything you do

 

[Kate]

But he should read a fucking book, it's as simple as that. Sorry, but posts like those warrant heated discussion.

Just be careful. I don't want either of you to get infractions, and that kind of talk is a moment away from it.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

No. You don't know who those people are, why they're there, or what they've done. Yeah, some of them might be creeps, some of them might be family people. Applauding death in any way is disgusting.

Agreed! The best part is even if the troop is there in error by a mistaken government policy it isn't his fault he is doing his job. So having that hate just shows Fred isnt as moderate as he claims

 

[Nzoric]

No. You don't know who those people are, why they're there, or what they've done. Yeah, some of them might be creeps, some of them might be family people. Applauding death in any way is disgusting.

Family people who are there in the interest of those who want to actively harm the country, yes. I don't applaud "allied" deaths in Iraq, but I completely understand Fred and partially sympathise with his sentiments. I can't say that I feel half sorry for any NATO pilot who got blown to bits over Belgrade, either.

 

[Fred]

Those people have been bamboozled by shady political imams and the supposed moderate Muslims do nothing

I hate Saddam as much as i hate Gedaffi, and i hate radical extremists just as much as the average person does. But your government's expansionist imperial policy renders them just as bad. Do not for a second play the "world police" card. Your country's government is one of the Middle East's biggest problems. From funding Zionist occupation to invading Iraq and Afghanistan, from backing and funding the ME's worst dictators in Mubarak and others to spreading your military bases all over the Arabian gulf, your country has done nothing but cause more and more instability in the region.

 

[Nzoric]

Yes discussion implies people listening to each others points not being arrogant like you and talking down to people who may not agree or know everything you do

How many books have you read on the history of the middle east? Uneducated opinions get treated as such, I'm sorry but that's just the way the world is.

 

[Cheesio]

You shouldn't have been there in the first place.

I do not feel half sorry for any occupation soldier that gets blown off. On the complete contrary, i applaud it. People like you make me applaud it even more.

Show em Freddy.

 

[Nzoric]

I hate Saddam as much as i hate Gedaffi, and i hate radical extremists just as much as the average person does. But your government's expansionist imperial policy renders them just as bad. Do not for a second play the "world police" card. Your country's government is one of the Middle East's biggest problems. From funding Zionist occupation to invading Iraq and Afghanistan, from backing and funding the ME's worst dictators in Mubarak and others to spreading your military bases all over the Arabian gulf, your country has done nothing but cause more and more instability in the region.

And that's but a fraction of it. They've fucked up the place beyond recognition.

 

[Kate]

Family people who are there in the interest of those who want to actively harm the country, yes. I don't applaud "allied" deaths in Iraq, but I completely understand Fred and partially sympathise with his sentiments. I can't say that I feel half sorry for any NATO pilot who got blown to bits over Belgrade, either.

Nothing is ever that simple, especially when you're talking about death.

As Gandalf says, "Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them?" /geekmoment

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I hate Saddam as much as i hate Gedaffi, and i hate radical extremists just as much as the average person does. But your government's expansionist imperial policy renders them just as bad. Do not for a second play the "world police" card. Your country's government is one of the Middle East's biggest problems. From funding Zionist occupation to invading Iraq and Afghanistan, from backing and funding the ME's worst dictators in Mubarak and others to spreading your military bases all over the Arabian gulf, your country has done nothing but cause more and more instability in the region.

Once again I am not condoning the military action. I have stated it multiple times that us should be more isolationist. What I can not condone is your willingness to condone the death of those poor soldiers

 

[AndreaCristiano]

How many books have you read on the history of the middle east? Uneducated opinions get treated as such, I'm sorry but that's just the way the world is.

It's not the way of the world only of arrogant elitist like you

 

[Nzoric]

No. You don't know who those people are, why they're there, or what they've done. Yeah, some of them might be creeps, some of them might be family people. Applauding death in any way is disgusting.

Oh and one more thing, they might be family people but they put the boot straps on them selves. No one was forced into the US army, those soldiers rank just as low as suicide bombers in my book. Any self respecting individual would see what's wrong and try to do something about it. Instead they put their signature and go meddle in something they have no right to do.

 

[Cheesio]

No. You don't know who those people are, why they're there, or what they've done. Yeah, some of them might be creeps, some of them might be family people. Applauding death in any way is disgusting.

Those people are bombing civilians left and right, humiliating women, kids.., they have no regrets killin, why anyone should feel sorry for them.

They shouldn't have been there.

 

[icemaη]

Once again I am not condoning the military action. I have stated it multiple times that us should be more isolationist. What I can not condone is your willingness to condone the death of those poor soldiers

I'm sorry, but that's just funny.

 

[Nzoric]

It's not the way of the world only of arrogant elitist like you

I'll try for the third time: how many books on middle eastern history have you read? What empirical data do you base your opinions on. Opinions such as "those tribal idiots killing each other"?