Oh Sh*t, Here We Go (5 Viewers)

[Fred]

No. You don't know who those people are, why they're there, or what they've done. Yeah, some of them might be creeps, some of them might be family people. Applauding death in any way is disgusting.

I don't care or want to know who they are. They are there as an occupation force that has caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's. They indiscriminately shelled cities and bombarded them, causing the country to fall in turmoil. There was more stability and safety during Saddam's time than there is right now, thats how bad it is.

For that reason, i do not sympathize with them at all. You set foot on foreign land and you aren't exactly bringing flowers and food. How do you expect people to react?

Agreed! The best part is even if the troop is there in error by a mistaken government policy it isn't his fault he is doing his job. So having that hate just shows Fred isnt as moderate as he claims

Its also the invaded's job to defend his country and fend off any foreign intruder. But a snob such as yourself probably does not see the Iraqi's as nothing more than a third world, barbaric tribal people, so you can't even see it from their perspective, as you probably don't even contemplate that they could have one anyway.

 

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[Nzoric]

I'm sorry, but that's just funny.

Funny and sad at the same time. It's like he has no idea what's actually going on.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Oh and one more thing, they might be family people but they put the boot straps on them selves. No one was forced into the US army, those soldiers rank just as low as suicide bombers in my book. Any self respecting individual would see what's wrong and try to do something about it. Instead they put their signature and go meddle in something they have no right to do.

Thats such a minimalistic idiotic way to look at the military

 

[Martin]

Once again I am not condoning the military action. I have stated it multiple times that us should be more isolationist. What I can not condone is your willingness to condone the death of those poor soldiers

Remember what you said recently using the word "bamboozled"?

 

[Kate]

Oh and one more thing, they might be family people but they put the boot straps on them selves. No one was forced into the US army, those soldiers rank just as low as suicide bombers in my book. Any self respecting individual would see what's wrong and try to do something about it. Instead they put their signature and go meddle in something they have no right to do.

For what reasons? Do you know them? Some people are forced, in ways you might not think. Money, pressure, ignorance...there are many reasons people join the military when perhaps it wasn't the right job for them. Perhaps they're convinced by the wrong people that what they're doing is good. Perhaps everyone in their family did it, and they feel it's their responsibility too. I'm sorry, but I cannot condone the deaths of hundreds of people I don't know, for any reason.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I'll try for the third time: how many books on middle eastern history have you read? What empirical data do you base your opinions on. Opinions such as "those tribal idiots killing each other"?

I have read some my statement isn't far from truth is it? Muslims killing each other because ones Shiite or Sunni etc that's not tribal stupidity?

 

[Nzoric]

Thats such a minimalistic idiotic way to look at the military

Back up your points with arguments, for Allah's sake. "it's such a minimalistic idiotic way to look at the military BECAUSE...." ?

 

[Kate]

I don't care or want to know who they are. They are there as an occupation force that has caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's. They indiscriminately shelled cities and bombarded them, causing the country to fall in turmoil. There was more stability and safety during Saddam's time than there is right now, thats how bad it is.

Then you are just as bad as they are.

 

[Cheesio]

Iraq before the Invasion was ranked first in the Arab world in the education system and had one of the lowest % of illatracy in the world. Look at them now, they don't have clean water to drink. They are studying in manuels made by americans corporation.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I don't care or want to know who they are. They are there as an occupation force that has caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's. They indiscriminately shelled cities and bombarded them, causing the country to fall in turmoil. There was more stability and safety during Saddam's time than there is right now, thats how bad it is.

For that reason, i do not sympathize with them at all. You set foot on foreign land and you aren't exactly bringing flowers and food. How do you expect people to react?






Its also the invaded's job to defend his country and fend off any foreign intruder. But a snob such as yourself probably does not see the Iraqi's as nothing more than a third world, barbaric tribal people, so you can't even see it from their perspective, as you probably don't even contemplate that they could have one anyway.

So then why should I care who and what you are in your sandlot of countries? You have such disdain for human life and yet you call yourself a Muslim ? Your a hypocrite. Your pray to God then hold human life in so low regard

 

[Fred]

And that's but a fraction of it. They've fucked up the place beyond recognition.

So true.

Once again I am not condoning the military action. I have stated it multiple times that us should be more isolationist. What I can not condone is your willingness to condone the death of those poor soldiers

You just said a minute ago, these people should be allowed to blow each other up? Now you don't condone their deaths

I completely condone fending off foreign intruders in any way possible. They have no business there, and it hasn't been a century since most middle eastern countries gained independence from Western imperialists, if we're not careful, history could repeat itself. But what do you know about that? you probably condone foreign invasion and expansionist policies.

 

[Nzoric]

I have read some my statement isn't far from truth is it? Muslims killing each other because ones Shiite or Sunni etc that's not tribal stupidity?

Which ones? Please, I really want to know. Have you ever given it thought as to why Shiite's and Sunni's are killing each other? Which weapons they're using? How they've been manipulated to stimulate foreign interest? You see everything in 90 shades of black and white. No one is stating that the Arab people do not have 1% of blame in everything, but your opinions are inexplicable. The US have been major actors in the middle east since World War 2, nothing that happens today is out of their influence, their interests and their convictions.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Remember what you said recently using the word "bamboozled"?

There is a difference. If one is in military service they have no choice but to go where they are sent. Terrorists listening to Wahhabis and chanting Allah Akbar have a choice

 

[icemaη]

So then why should I care who and what you are in your sandlot of countries? You have such disdain for human life and yet you call yourself a Muslim ? Your a hypocrite. Your pray to God then hold human life in so low regard

You were sad when Osama died?

 

[Nzoric]

So then why should I care who and what you are in your sandlot of countries? You have such disdain for human life and yet you call yourself a Muslim ? Your a hypocrite. Your pray to God then hold human life in so low regard

You just said that you guys should let the tribal idiots kill each other

In your "sandlot" countries? Nice cultural sensitivity there.

 

[Martin]

There is a difference. If one is in military service they have no choice but to go where they are sent. Terrorists listening to Wahhabis and chanting Allah Akbar have a choice

If they find out they're going to Iraq they can quit the military, can't they? Isn't that better than killing people when that's against your principles?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Back up your points with arguments, for Allah's sake. "it's such a minimalistic idiotic way to look at the military BECAUSE...." ?

Because you act as though Americans lined up to join the military to kill Muslims! It didn't happen that way. You have people in the military the orders come and you go where the orders send you. Soldiers have no recourse they go where they are sent and do the job. So advocating their death is disgusting

 

[Nzoric]

There is a difference. If one is in military service they have no choice but to go where they are sent. Terrorists listening to Wahhabis and chanting Allah Akbar have a choice

Did the soldiers sign a contract or did they not sign a contract? Yes they did. Wahhabis recruiting suicide bombers or US army delegated setting up reqruitment camps in some of the most violent and backward areas of the US - what's the difference? What makes the volunteer soldier operating on foreign soil a better person than a suicide bomber operating on his own soil, defending what is his in the way he knows?

I have no sympathy for the suicide bomber, but I sure as fuck do not have any for the soldier either.

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Because you act as though Americans lined up to join the military to kill Muslims! It didn't happen that way. You have people in the military the orders come and you go where the orders send you. Soldiers have no recourse they go where they are sent and do the job. So advocating their death is disgusting

But the soldiers who signed up post 2001 did know that they were going to be sent to war, did they not? What's their excuse for signing up ?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

So true.



You just said a minute ago, these people should be allowed to blow each other up? Now you don't condone their deaths

I completely condone fending off foreign intruders in any way possible. They have no business there, and it hasn't been a century since most middle eastern countries gained independence from Western imperialists, if we're not careful, history could repeat itself. But what do you know about that? you probably condone foreign invasion and expansionist policies.

I guess you can't read. I don't condone the deaths of the soldiers. If you retards wanna off each other go ahead

 

[Fred]

And that's but a fraction of it. They've fucked up the place beyond recognition.

Once again I am not condoning the military action. I have stated it multiple times that us should be more isolationist. What I can not condone is your willingness to condone the death of those poor soldiers

For what reasons? Do you know them? Some people are forced, in ways you might not think. Money, pressure, ignorance...there are many reasons people join the military when perhaps it wasn't the right job for them. Perhaps they're convinced by the wrong people that what they're doing is good. Perhaps everyone in their family did it, and they feel it's their responsibility too. I'm sorry, but I cannot condone the deaths of hundreds of people I don't know, for any reason.

What about the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's who have died ever since the imperialist invasion in 2003? What do you feel about them? What do you feel about the poor soldiers who participated in indiscriminately shelling complete cities like Falluja and others?

Oh poor them really, because of ignorance and financial reasons they were forced to bomb cities and kill innocent people. We should all get together and cry for them.

Then you are just as bad as they are.

I'm relieved that you actually used the word "bad" to describe them. Even though, i do not for a second think it is enough. But step in the right direction.

So then why should I care who and what you are in your sandlot of countries? You have such disdain for human life and yet you call yourself a Muslim ? Your a hypocrite. Your pray to God then hold human life in so low regard

Only those who invade other countries.

and nobody but you holds human life in such low regard. You condone what happened to Iraq, you condone whats happening to the Palestinians, i'm sure you also condone what you guys did in countries like Vietnam. Yet you hold human life in such high regard(as long as those humans are American)