Someone said he also prefers 3-4-3. That'll be interesting to see. I just hope he doesn't experiment too much, word has it he's famous for it (I guess that's why they call him Tinkerman).
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Look dude, state something such as that and you really lose all your credibility. Especially when the topic at hand is one of Juninho's teammates. 
If you were paying attention, I wasn't comparing InIesta to those players in the personal sort of way. I was simply grouping them together as playmakers with individual talent who have all prospered in Italy, all with different yet similar traits and characteristics. But of course I can't expect you to understand that..
InIesta has great ball control, an amazing passing range and an eye for jumping into the play when necessary. The latter element takes some sort of tactical awareness, especially when the player usually plays in midfield for Rijkaard, but he also is used up top on occasion as well. The fact that InIesta can play several positions, sometimes starting as the holding midfielder behind Deco and Xavi, shows that he has a good footballing brain and therefore would be fine in Italy.
Instead of just saying he's not as good as Veron or Totti or would get owned in italy, how about you give us a real argument instead of hiding behind your lame bullshit for a change.
Actually, if you ever played football, you would know that it's much more difficult playing for a team with lousy players than it is for a team filled with capable ones. While you're playing for the latter your teammates will pick you up, but being the only good player out there is a struggle sometimes.
And again, your argument doesn't make sense. I compare Guardiola to InIesta and stated that Pep played well while at Brescia. You said he doesn't have to play to his utmost capacity there, but if that's the case he still played pretty well. I would like to remind you InIesta is compared to Guardiola in more ways than one by people who have watched all the matches of both players in question.
So hence my point... if an old and injured Pep played well in Italy, why can't InIesta? You won't give me a decent argument regarding that, so just give up, dude. And enough with the Barca hating, people.
1. I rate Ligue 1 below Italy, Spain and England, where it is supposed to be.
2. So you haven't seen much of Tiago at Lyon where he has really blossomed... thank you proving my point.
3. Comments regarding Juninho -
I didn't even say anything about him besides he's not just all freekicks... which is the truth. As Arif said, just stop right there, Ahmedios. It's actually starting to become embarrassing for the forum as whole.
And regarding Tiago, even Mourinho praised him while he was at Chelsea, so you're way off the mark with the kid.
Inshallah, you'll just stop discussing Juninho.
If you were paying attention, I wasn't comparing InIesta to those players in the personal sort of way. I was simply grouping them together as playmakers with individual talent who have all prospered in Italy, all with different yet similar traits and characteristics. But of course I can't expect you to understand that..
InIesta has great ball control, an amazing passing range and an eye for jumping into the play when necessary. The latter element takes some sort of tactical awareness, especially when the player usually plays in midfield for Rijkaard, but he also is used up top on occasion as well. The fact that InIesta can play several positions, sometimes starting as the holding midfielder behind Deco and Xavi, shows that he has a good footballing brain and therefore would be fine in Italy.
Instead of just saying he's not as good as Veron or Totti or would get owned in italy, how about you give us a real argument instead of hiding behind your lame bullshit for a change.
Actually, if you ever played football, you would know that it's much more difficult playing for a team with lousy players than it is for a team filled with capable ones. While you're playing for the latter your teammates will pick you up, but being the only good player out there is a struggle sometimes.
And again, your argument doesn't make sense. I compare Guardiola to InIesta and stated that Pep played well while at Brescia. You said he doesn't have to play to his utmost capacity there, but if that's the case he still played pretty well. I would like to remind you InIesta is compared to Guardiola in more ways than one by people who have watched all the matches of both players in question.
So hence my point... if an old and injured Pep played well in Italy, why can't InIesta? You won't give me a decent argument regarding that, so just give up, dude. And enough with the Barca hating, people.
1. I rate Ligue 1 below Italy, Spain and England, where it is supposed to be.
2. So you haven't seen much of Tiago at Lyon where he has really blossomed... thank you proving my point.
3. Comments regarding Juninho -
I didn't even say anything about him besides he's not just all freekicks... which is the truth. As Arif said, just stop right there, Ahmedios. It's actually starting to become embarrassing for the forum as whole.And regarding Tiago, even Mourinho praised him while he was at Chelsea, so you're way off the mark with the kid.
Inshallah, you'll just stop discussing Juninho.
Look dude, state something such as that and you really lose all your credibility. Especially when the topic at hand is one of Juninho's teammates.
Yes, all of them prospered in Italy and to everyone of them has his own playing style and a prominent specific skill. And they're playmakers exactly as Iniesta. Yes, you haven't compared everyone singly to Inesta and this the thing that I did in case of Veron, Totti and Rosina to show the differences between them and Inesta. Hence, the differences between them and Inesta are pretty obvious now. And if you return back to the traits and characteristics, that you named and I explained, you'll find that Inesta isn't up to the previously mentioned playmakers' class. Your comparison was inaccurate and general, things which make it pretty lame and unconvincing.
And if you read my previous post carefully, you'll comprehend that I didn't say that Inesta would get owned in Italy, while Veron & Totti are simply better. I stated what the points of power in the previous two players are in my previous post, simply things that Inesta lacks. So, don't try to play smartass on me, Andy. Again, you're repeating yourself as you do in almost all your long discussions by imaging some soap opera that didn't take place except on TV. By the way, TV is sometimes so harmful.
I disagree with you in that point as I said before. Actually, you added nothing to what you said in your previous post. I agree that Guardiola played well for Brescia but he wasn't in his top form, simply because he was old and the team itself lacked ambition. And even if his teammates are lousy, he didn't have to do his best; he was playing for Berscia. If Guardiola joined an Italian big side, he might have played better, but this didn't happen. I don't know what is the problem with you, Guardiola's case isn't that complicated. One last thing, why didn't Guardiola join a big side before his retirement? I think that the answer is pretty clear.
Andy, who told you that I hate Barca?
You stated before that Inesta is compared to Guardiola in more ways than one. In my opinion, they're different styles of players. And Guardiola's spell at Brescia is a different case to Inesta in Juventus, if the latter joins us.
1. I rate Ligue 1 below Italy, Spain and England, where it is supposed to be.
2. So you haven't seen much of Tiago at Lyon where he has really blossomed... thank you proving my point.
3. Comments regarding Juninho - I didn't even say anything about him besides he's not just all freekicks... which is the truth. As Arif said, just stop right there, Ahmedios. It's actually starting to become embarrassing for the forum as whole.
And regarding Tiago, even Mourinho praised him while he was at Chelsea, so you're way off the mark with the kid.
Inshallah, you'll just stop discussing Juninho.
2. So you haven't seen much of Tiago at Lyon where he has really blossomed... thank you proving my point.
3. Comments regarding Juninho -
I didn't even say anything about him besides he's not just all freekicks... which is the truth. As Arif said, just stop right there, Ahmedios. It's actually starting to become embarrassing for the forum as whole.And regarding Tiago, even Mourinho praised him while he was at Chelsea, so you're way off the mark with the kid.
Inshallah, you'll just stop discussing Juninho.
What is starting to become embarrassing, Andy? The main aim of a forum is discussion in a civilised way, so what is your point? Okay, it's over for me now, I said nearly all what I want to say. But, there is one thing I noticed in your whole post, those small hidden remarks are lame, and again you know what I mean, I have nothing to hide unlike you. Look, I know that you're carrying a groundless grudges months ago. So, please if you want to discuss me (And I know that you don't give a flying f***) so don't let the momentum of the past takes you that far, not for me but because it doesn't serve any discussion whatsoever. Thanks & inshallah t32el.
Walls don't have opinions, so no. While I may be opinionated, every other football fan will agree with me when I say Juninho is not only a great freekick artist, but also a wonderful passer and magician with the ball.
That's bullshit. Iniesta is better than Rosina and while he may not be in the same league as Veron or Totti he might be there one day. The kid is only 23 and starts for Barcelona... one of the biggest clubs in the world. How you can sit there and say he won't perform in Serie A or crack under pressure for Juve is just simply pure stupidity and bias, as Serie A is no better than La Liga at the moment. I gave you a variety of playmakers that have performed in Serie A, names from Guardiola to Rosina, and Iniesta encompasses some of those same talents and surpasses others in many. Iniesta might be small, however he makes up for it with his quickness and ball skill. Don't tell me the likes of Zola and Giovinco can't play in Serie A..
Fact of the matter is, Iniesta is a great talent and would not get owned in Serie A because he's already a great player who has tactical sense and experiance at the highest levels. You're the one that stated Tiago and Iniesta would get owned in Serie A, but your opinion is just groundless, biased and frankly stupid.
Again, it wasn't even a comparison. Forget football... pull out a dictionary.
If you'll remember your own statements carefully, you'll remember you posted this:
Stop beating around the bush and just admit you don't know what you're talking about.
Don't you get it? Apparently not. Iniesta is a better player than the old and injured Pep at Brescia, but the latter still played well. This isn't meteorology here, Ahmedios. It's easy. If Pep still played well during his spell in Serie A, THE BETTER INIESTA WOULDNT GET OWNED IN ITALY. Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
Dude, just stop. Please, for the love of Allah.
Even some Chelsea fans say that Tiago played well for them, it's just that as somebody already noted he was surplus to requirements and the kid new it. So he decided to go to Lyon where he would receive a starting role, and since then he's been a solid performer at a team you admittingly (and quite obviously) don't usually watch.
And again, you've provided no real arguments as to why Tiago would get owned in Italy and you continue spewing this Chelsea nonsense which doesn't really help your situation either when even Chelsea fans praised him. He only played one season in England with a team full of newcomers FFS. Your time is up.
But whatever dude, keep living in your little Ahmedios fairytale village where Serie A is king of the anal cannons. There is really no point in discussing football matters with someone who believes Juninho (over 50 assists in his Lyon career) is only famous for freekicks and then thinks he has the right to say that another Lyon teammate would be owned in Italy. Come back again when you watch some more football.
That's bullshit. Iniesta is better than Rosina and while he may not be in the same league as Veron or Totti he might be there one day. The kid is only 23 and starts for Barcelona... one of the biggest clubs in the world. How you can sit there and say he won't perform in Serie A or crack under pressure for Juve is just simply pure stupidity and bias, as Serie A is no better than La Liga at the moment. I gave you a variety of playmakers that have performed in Serie A, names from Guardiola to Rosina, and Iniesta encompasses some of those same talents and surpasses others in many. Iniesta might be small, however he makes up for it with his quickness and ball skill. Don't tell me the likes of Zola and Giovinco can't play in Serie A..
Fact of the matter is, Iniesta is a great talent and would not get owned in Serie A because he's already a great player who has tactical sense and experiance at the highest levels. You're the one that stated Tiago and Iniesta would get owned in Serie A, but your opinion is just groundless, biased and frankly stupid.
Again, it wasn't even a comparison. Forget football... pull out a dictionary.
If you'll remember your own statements carefully, you'll remember you posted this:
Stop beating around the bush and just admit you don't know what you're talking about.
Don't you get it? Apparently not. Iniesta is a better player than the old and injured Pep at Brescia, but the latter still played well. This isn't meteorology here, Ahmedios. It's easy. If Pep still played well during his spell in Serie A, THE BETTER INIESTA WOULDNT GET OWNED IN ITALY. Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
Dude, just stop. Please, for the love of Allah.Even some Chelsea fans say that Tiago played well for them, it's just that as somebody already noted he was surplus to requirements and the kid new it. So he decided to go to Lyon where he would receive a starting role, and since then he's been a solid performer at a team you admittingly (and quite obviously) don't usually watch.
And again, you've provided no real arguments as to why Tiago would get owned in Italy and you continue spewing this Chelsea nonsense which doesn't really help your situation either when even Chelsea fans praised him. He only played one season in England with a team full of newcomers FFS. Your time is up.
But whatever dude, keep living in your little Ahmedios fairytale village where Serie A is king of the anal cannons. There is really no point in discussing football matters with someone who believes Juninho (over 50 assists in his Lyon career) is only famous for freekicks and then thinks he has the right to say that another Lyon teammate would be owned in Italy. Come back again when you watch some more football.
tiago's a good player, was a solid performer for chelsea and as mentioned above never really got the space he deserved but i must admit i have not seem him at lyon, still i dont think we can afford to spend 15+mil on him, maybe he could be included in a trezeguet trade along with malouda or something along those lines....
cant remember how well tiago performed in his chelsea days but he was given to lyon in order to get essien,because with the acquisition of essien he wouldnt get much playing time.
about the 3-4-3 system.no way we can play that with our current players
we have no world class CB and our wingers arent suited to that
about the 3-4-3 system.no way we can play that with our current players
we have no world class CB and our wingers arent suited to that
