Official: Shevchenko to leave Milan (10 Viewers)
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You make history by reaching a final, so I don't agree..
We've had plenty of discussions here people have made points such as us being a quality European side of the 90's with all of the finals we reached..
You see?
Even 7-8 years later, reaching a final/reaching finals, despite losing them, still has its value to many people and it will always be remembered.
We've had plenty of discussions here people have made points such as us being a quality European side of the 90's with all of the finals we reached..
You see?
Even 7-8 years later, reaching a final/reaching finals, despite losing them, still has its value to many people and it will always be remembered.
yes u make history, but everyone likes a winner, comming 2nd doesnt make u a winner, it makes u just as much of a loser than the eliminated teams.
all those finals juve have lost, i try not to remember, but only the finals we have won.
we got knocked out of the quarters in the passed 2 seasons, i dont really see how reaching the quarters and going out for a club like juve has much value? do we get a medal for it? do we get praise for it? do we get anymore recognition for it? no
look, don't be a stuck-up
getting to a European cup final is a marvellous achievement.
Fans think so, managers think so and most importantly, players think so.
Arsenal, despite losing this year, still is the "place to be" for many players.
Do you think they would've gotten Rosicky if they crashed out in the group stages??
getting to a European cup final is a marvellous achievement.
Fans think so, managers think so and most importantly, players think so.
Arsenal, despite losing this year, still is the "place to be" for many players.
Do you think they would've gotten Rosicky if they crashed out in the group stages??
why are you comparing seria a with CL
in CL you play with top teams of every other league, in serie a, there are many teams weaker.
getting 2 place is not bad either in serie a, it depends on the season, if team has had lots of injurys and been 3th or 4th place in the moust part of the season, then its not bad at all. you are automatically in the next CL groupstage.
absolutely
we're a revered side in Europe because of all the finals we've been in, not only the ones we won
We've won the main prize in football as many times as Nottingham Forest, but we're much more revered than them are we not?
And why is that?
Yes, because we participate on a regular basis and because we've managed to go far many times, reaching the finals 7 times in total
we're a revered side in Europe because of all the finals we've been in, not only the ones we won
We've won the main prize in football as many times as Nottingham Forest, but we're much more revered than them are we not?
And why is that?
Yes, because we participate on a regular basis and because we've managed to go far many times, reaching the finals 7 times in total
Stephan said:
why are you comparing seria a with CL
in CL you play with top teams of every other league, in serie a, there are many teams weaker.
getting 2 place is not bad either in serie a, it depends on the season, if team has had lots of injurys and been 3th or 4th place in the moust part of the season, then its not bad at all. you are automatically in the next CL groupstage.
not comparing the competitions, im simply stating that would u be satisfied with comming 2nd in serie A? well obviously u are, i wouldnt.
and in serie A like in europe, there are no easy games, all opponents needs to be respected, no matter the quality it poses
no it doesnt, there is also big part on luck. you think in CL the best team has won and those so called not good enough teams have always failed. barca was not that superb in this season, they had lucky moments, lucky desicions by refs. liverpool where very lucky also last season(and i am not talking about the final), look groupstages for example. also against chelsea, was it a goal or not? how the ref saw it? dp goal was disallowed against liverpool. does that all mean liverpool was the best.
the thing is, the best teams doesnt win CL usually.
the thing is, the best teams doesnt win CL usually.
Serie-A is a tough league, I agree, but you can't really compare finishing second in the Serie-A and finishing second in the Champions League, because if you finish second in the Champions League you still have had all the eyes of the world on you.
A final is just a game, and everything can happen.
Getting there is the hard part!
Besides, everyone will always remember who beat who, so a place in the final guarantees you a place in the history books no matter what the outcome.
I can agree that "The winner takes it all" applies to a league, but when it comes to a prestigous cup competition like the European Champions League, it's not quite so - even though the winner takes most of the credits.
Once you get the final on a distance, ask anyone, they'll know who got beaten, who the opponents were.
A final is just a game, and everything can happen.
Getting there is the hard part!
Besides, everyone will always remember who beat who, so a place in the final guarantees you a place in the history books no matter what the outcome.
I can agree that "The winner takes it all" applies to a league, but when it comes to a prestigous cup competition like the European Champions League, it's not quite so - even though the winner takes most of the credits.
Once you get the final on a distance, ask anyone, they'll know who got beaten, who the opponents were.