Official: Patrick Vieira To Juve (24 Viewers)

Mar 6, 2005
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Ah, but now that vieira's here, emerson will have much more freedom in going forward.. I think the only reason Capello played him deep last season was because he didn't trust any of blasi, appiah, or tacchinardi..
 

Arttk

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Jul 30, 2004
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Well, last year, Emerson was refined to a more defensive role because his partners(blasi, appiah, tach) couldn't hold the midfield by themselves. Now we have vieira, its a completely new story because just emo and vieira by themselves can hold onto the midfield thus freeing one of them (at a time) to go on the offensive. Adding vieira isn't the same as just adding one player, its like adding a whole new dimension to our midfield.

As for us playing cautious, pleas refer to Liverpool's style that got them to win the CL, or even better, Roma's approach to CL, getting destroyed in the group stages.
 

Nicole

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Sep 16, 2004
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And wow, Juve have 28 League Titles, yet only 2 CL titles? Hmm, why is that?

**** off, without the FISC and the corruption in Italian football you would of won **** all!
 

Arttk

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Jul 30, 2004
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So how does this relate to the previous discussion, we were talking about the success the style of play between Roma and Juventus.
Not the legitimacy of our scudetto.
And about us winning only 2 CL titles, well we have been in the Final pretty often in the past 10years and we at least got to the final, unlike roma who has never gotten anywhere near the final.

Oh and one thing, I still don't understand how you like to brand emerson, capello, and zebina as traitors. Players move, hell A LOT of player moves and that is part of the game. Emo, Capello and Zebina never made a pact saying "till death do us part", so I don't understand how they became traitors.
If u want to see who is a traitor, may I introduce u to Mr. Wayne Rooney, "once a blue, always a blue".
 

Nicole

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Sep 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Arttk ] ++
So how does this relate to the previous discussion, we were talking about the success the style of play between Roma and Juventus.
Not the legitimacy of our scudetto.
And about us winning only 2 CL titles, well we have been in the Final pretty often in the past 10years and we at least got to the final, unlike roma who has never gotten anywhere near the final.

Oh and one thing, I still don't understand how you like to brand emerson, capello, and zebina as traitors. Players move, hell A LOT of player moves and that is part of the game. Emo, Capello and Zebina never made a pact saying "till death do us part", so I don't understand how they became traitors.
If u want to see who is a traitor, may I introduce u to Mr. Wayne Rooney, "once a blue, always a blue".
You started it by saying we've never won the CL, so what? I never said we had. So I was simply explaining how it was that a club with 28 league titles only had a measly 2 CL titles.

Oh, and yes they are traitors, not so much Zebina. But Emerson demanded to leave, gave us no choice and because of that Juve could pretty much name there price and we'd had no choice to accept and I've had enough of talking about Capello, if you dont know why we hate him, then its not worth my time trying to explain it, done it enough times, we've moved on.
 

Arttk

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Jul 30, 2004
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Well winning the league requires consistancy which I can confidently say that we are pretty damn consistant thus all those league titles. Winning the CL is completely different, it requires a good team and luck, or just sometimes luck(liverpool). So by saying that we only won 2 "measly" titles is pathetic, well the best is like Real Madrid and that is like 8? Counting those titles before most of us were born? That is why the damn CL title is so pretigeous, it's not something that you can collect in your trophy room by double digit.

Well, yes he demanded to leave, but would you know the exact reasons? Did Emo personally came and told u the reason why he wanted to leave? YOU and most Roma fans just assume it is because of money, well sure if it was for money, then wouldn't it make more sense to go over to Real Madrid and earn that fat pay cheque while going to party with his fat brazilian friends than to go to Juve and actually have to play football?
There are always players who at sometime in their career demand a change in scenery and I see Emerson as one of those players.
 

Nicole

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Sep 16, 2004
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I honestly dont give 2 ****s why Emerson left, I couldnt care less, I do care about the way he treated us and the club, he could of had more ****ing respect.
 

Arttk

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Jul 30, 2004
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Oh so you don't care about how he gave his best when he was in Roma, acted as a professional, helped you guys win a scudetto when he was there. So once he leaves, all that is forgotten and only thing that matters is how he left?
Could he have been treated like shit prompting him to leave the capital? Who cares, right? I mean as long as he left, he must be a traitor, no matter the reason. Right?
 

Nicole

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Sep 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Arttk ] ++
Oh so you don't care about how he gave his best when he was in Roma, acted as a professional, helped you guys win a scudetto when he was there. So once he leaves, all that is forgotten and only thing that matters is how he left?
Could he have been treated like shit prompting him to leave the capital? Who cares, right? I mean as long as he left, he must be a traitor, no matter the reason. Right?
Yeah, that is right. Had he of said privately he wanted to leave, and Juventus made an offer, everything would of been fine, of course some people still wouldnt of liked him for leaving, instead he had to treat the fans and the club with disrespect and come on publically saying he wanted to leave. And for that I hate him. And whatever you want to say about why he left, 1 fact is, he is getting more money at Juventus now....but whatever. This argument is going nowhere fast.
 

Arttk

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Jul 30, 2004
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Oh, wait the minute, so If Emo said publically that he wanted to leave, (perhaps he was flat out rejected by privately?) that makes him disrespect the fans and the club.
So lets look around to see, Rooney said he wanted to leave , traitor, Rio Ferdinand said he wanted to leave, traitor, Essien wants to leave, traitor, Baptista wants to leave, traitor, oh damn .. the list is getting long. It seems like that everyone on the transfer market these days are damn traitors. OR .. holdon .. could this be how the football world operates?? If you are really unhappy about staying in one club, and you get rejected when you wanted to leave, the only option is go to the media and tell the whole world.
The point is, I don't think Emerson is a traitor, he is doing simply what every other player does when he doesn't want to be part of the team and if really wanted to be a traitor, he could've just sat out his contract and leave Roma with nothing.
 

Nicole

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Sep 16, 2004
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So tell me? Do Everton fans NOT consider Rooney a traitor? Rio HASNT asked to leave yet, Do you think Lyon fans think Essien is a traitor? I dont know, I dont know any Lyon fans. Or Sevilla fans for that matter so I dont know about Baptista.

But so what if they did? To a football fan, the club they love is the most important thing in the world, and they cant understand why someone would want to leave, how can you? Alot of people on this site hate Miccoli for what he has said about Juve? So what is the difference? At least Miccoli has an excuse cause he's been ****ed about by Juve, yet he is a traitor right? Yeah, that list is getting longer.
 

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