Official Azzurri (Italy) Euro 2008 Thread (33 Viewers)
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Actually Francesco has a point. It somehow affects their performance mentally If they concede such a goal. But still, 2nd half was supposed to be diff for the Italians and they didn't really give it all to overcome the first goal they conceded. That said, Holland was better overall with or without Ruuds goal.
Actually I think that the first goal was definitely offside and no matter what anyone says, even if Netherlands did win by 3 goals, that first goal is critical because it changes the mentality and tactics of the team that conceded. In a competition wherte there are only 3 group games, to go a goal down in your first game means you have to try to score to at least play for a draw. This can leave you susceptible to counterattacks which is exactly what happened. Hence, that first unfair goal changed the rest of the game and that's the bottom line.
Look, there are far too many loopholes and differing opinions on this goal that it's impossible to come to a consensus. UEFA made a clarification on the issue defending the referee's decision, the head referee of the English Premier League says Panucci was active and therefore in the play, yet most other Prem officials would not have let the goal stand.
I mean, just get over it. There is always some stupid controversy you guys fall back upon to defend your own failures. It's annoying, and if you want to blame anyone for the goal, blame that idiot Panucci for the giving the ball away prior to the goal and then getting knocked over by Buffon only to fake out an injury.
I mean, just get over it. There is always some stupid controversy you guys fall back upon to defend your own failures. It's annoying, and if you want to blame anyone for the goal, blame that idiot Panucci for the giving the ball away prior to the goal and then getting knocked over by Buffon only to fake out an injury.
Please tell me,who here has used the first goal as an excuse for Italy's defeat?Every Italy fan here knows and admits that the team deserved to lose,regardless of the first goal.Had that goal not stood,Holland would have probably another one anyway.if you're trying to suggest that Rab and Francesco are using the first goal as an excuse for Italy's loss,then you've got another thing coming.
You enjoy poking fun at people,we get that.But brining up a point over and over again after it's already been clarified is pretty silly.
Incase you want to bring up the same point again,ill clarify it Again :
no one is using the first goal as an excuse for Italy's defeat,so your 'Defend your own failrues' theory' is rubbish.
You enjoy poking fun at people,we get that.But brining up a point over and over again after it's already been clarified is pretty silly.
Incase you want to bring up the same point again,ill clarify it Again :
no one is using the first goal as an excuse for Italy's defeat,so your 'Defend your own failrues' theory' is rubbish.
The thing is, the goal did change the game, completely. I'm not complaining or anything because Italy's performance last night did not deserve any points but off the top of my head I can't think of a single chance Holland created after the first goal which wasn't from a counter attack. The second and third goals were from counters, RVN's one on one was from a counter, pretty much everything the Dutch did after 1-0 was counter. If Van Nistelrooy's goal had been disallowed the Italians wouldn't have been so open at the back and it might've been a different game, but again, let me reiterate. I'm not complaining.
If we got owned like that, no, I wouldn't be harping about the offsides goal. Instead, I'd rip apart my own team for looking like crap, for not being prepared, for looking like they didn't care, and for also fielding the wrong players.
I don't make excuses for my own team like some people on this forum.
I don't make excuses for my own team like some people on this forum.
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