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pavelnel

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You can't poach stars from Bayern. This has been proven for nearly 15 years now. Ribery, Lewandowski, Müller, Robben etc.

We lost Alaba on a free and sold Kroos. But those are not cases of poaching, it's simply because Bayern didn't want to give them what they asked.

History shows if Bayern wants a player to stay, then he's staying. Only way for them to leave is to let their contract run down like Alaba did.

Bayern is too strong financially for the oil clubs to be able to poach from us.
Bayern will be fine.

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Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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You can't poach stars from Bayern. This has been proven for nearly 15 years now. Ribery, Lewandowski, Müller, Robben etc.

We lost Alaba on a free and sold Kroos. But those are not cases of poaching, it's simply because Bayern didn't want to give them what they asked.

History shows if Bayern wants a player to stay, then he's staying. Only way for them to leave is to let their contract run down like Alaba did.

Bayern is too strong financially for the oil clubs to be able to poach from us.

Florentino Perez said that they chased Lewandowski many times but Bayern were never willing to negotiate.

Only player I remember we lost in that sense was Michael Ballack.
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That's the very definition of poaching because you don't want to/can't offer what a player wants.

Soon you'll see many such cases where many of your players, especially the foreign ones want to get paid like EPL/PSG players. Either Bayern pay up or they concede defeat.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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:shifty:

That's the very definition of poaching because you don't want to/can't offer what a player wants.

Soon you'll see many such cases where many of your players, especially the foreign ones want to get paid like EPL/PSG players. Either Bayern pay up or they concede defeat.
I disagree. How is it poaching if the club thinks a player isn't worth as much as he's asking for? They will pay up if they think the player deserves it. Kroos was simply deemed to be expendable back then, so they let him go. They could have paid up, but decided not to. That isn't poaching.

With Upamecano coming in, Bayern has plenty of good CB's as well and Davies/Hernandez for the LB role. Same scenario as with Kroos.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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I disagree. How is it poaching if the club thinks a player isn't worth as much as he's asking for? They will pay up if they think the player deserves it. Kroos was simply deemed to be expendable back then, so they let him go. They could have paid up, but decided not to. That isn't poaching.

With Upamecano coming in, Bayern has plenty of good CB's as well and Davies/Hernandez for the LB role. Same scenario as with Kroos.
Dear Bayerndevil, exactly my point. Ofcourse a club like Bayern could afford to pay big wages for players they deem worthy, but even for a club like Bayern, there are budget constraints. The situation is much different now compared to previous years.

EPL teams and oil teams are going crazy on the market. There was a time where players used to go play for oil clubs just for money, but now they have become THE destinations and have pretty much replaced the cream of the crop.

So Bayern will inevitably be left with a situation where they are required to pay market level wages for their stars to compete with the rich teams.

I'm not saying they're doomed but Bayern will have to stretch their wallet in order to stay at the top.

It has already started with some of their players starting to demand big wages.
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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:shifty:

That's the very definition of poaching because you don't want to/can't offer what a player wants.

Soon you'll see many such cases where many of your players, especially the foreign ones want to get paid like EPL/PSG players. Either Bayern pay up or they concede defeat.
Lol, disagreed.

Poaching is buying the biggest stars while they’re on long contracts. Dortmund gets poached all the time - Sancho, Dembele, Gündogan, Götze, Aubameyang etc.

Bayern could give Alaba and Kroos what they asked, it wasn’t because they werent able to. It’s simply because they didn’t value them enough.

You could then argue the Oil clubs got better cards on their hands as they can offer a crazy salary to anyone they want.

But Bayern losing Alaba and Kroos is not the case of being poached really. Quite the opposite in fact.
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
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Lol, disagreed.

Poaching is buying the biggest stars while they’re on long contracts. Dortmund gets poached all the time - Sancho, Dembele, Gündogan, Götze, Aubameyang etc.

Bayern could give Alaba and Kroos what they asked, it wasn’t because they werent able to. It’s simply because they didn’t value them enough.

You could then argue the Oil clubs got better cards on their hands as they can offer a crazy salary to anyone they want.

But Bayern losing Alaba and Kroos is not the case of being poached really. Quite the opposite in fact.
So you're saying Lewandowski wasn't poached by Bayern? :p
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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Dear Bayerndevil, exactly my point. Ofcourse a club like Bayern could afford to pay big wages for players they deem worthy, but even for a club like Bayern, there are budget constraints. The situation is much different now compared to previous years.

EPL teams and oil teams are going crazy on the market. There was a time where players used to go play for oil clubs just for money, but now they have become THE destinations and have pretty much replaced the cream of the crop.

So Bayern will inevitably be left with a situation where they are required to pay market level wages for their stars to compete with the rich teams.

I'm not saying they're doomed but Bayern will have to stretch their wallet in order to stay at the top.

It has already started with some of their players starting to demand big wages.
Kimmich will recieve double his wages for extending, think he will earn around 20 mio a year with the new contract. Goretzka will probably get a big pay rise as well.

Thing is we can give our stars what they want, we are just cautios when it comes to who we think deserves it.

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So you're saying Lewandowski wasn't poached by Bayern? :p
He was, don’t know why I forgot him :)
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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Not to forget we bought out Nagelsmann from Leipzig for 25 mio. The biggest transfer in history for a football coach.

I don't think we will spend more in this window, only if Tolisso gets sold.
 

Akshen

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Aug 27, 2010
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Milan is doing good business this Mercator, Maignan looks really good, they kept their best assets in Kessie and Hernandez, all they now need is a good trequarista, someone like Ziyech or James, both if them will be much better than Hakan
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Milan is doing good business this Mercator, Maignan looks really good, they kept their best assets in Kessie and Hernandez, all they now need is a good trequarista, someone like Ziyech or James, both if them will be much better than Hakan
Losing 2 starters on a free, and they’re yet to agree a renewal with Kessie. If that doesn’t happen he’ll leave for free too. Let’s see if they can get anybody to replace Hakan first.
 
Jun 6, 2015
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Lol, disagreed.

Poaching is buying the biggest stars while they’re on long contracts. Dortmund gets poached all the time - Sancho, Dembele, Gündogan, Götze, Aubameyang etc.

Bayern could give Alaba and Kroos what they asked, it wasn’t because they werent able to. It’s simply because they didn’t value them enough.

You could then argue the Oil clubs got better cards on their hands as they can offer a crazy salary to anyone they want.

But Bayern losing Alaba and Kroos is not the case of being poached really. Quite the opposite in fact.
Thiago was poached though.
 
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