No countries,No Religion = The World a Better Place? (2 Viewers)

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Apr 12, 2004
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u paid attention in history class:shocked:
nerd!
Yea dog, the WWII commentary in NATW didn't let you in on that fact?

So, if an Indian will come to get your grandsons out of New York after 1500 years, would it be ok & logical??
I was missing what you said, I thought you meant dots, not feathers, but in any case.....I would be cool with that. They were here before we were, turn-about is fair play.

I can't get this sentence, it is very general and misleading.
Millions if not billions have died because of what religion taught them....

People died because they questioned the Catholic Church....
Muslims died because of Christians in the Crusades.....

So if the Catholics or Christians in general were more accepting at that time, and were not scared pussies of other religions, neither one of the prior events would have occured.

People will always be confrontational and greedy... those are the facets of human nature. The human being will always want more, dislike some aspects of life, dislike others, and will perpetually do things for their own benefit. This did not come about because of religion or nationalism... rather, it is just the way we have always been and forever will be. Eliminate borders and religion and you have people fighting amongst themselves even more because you'll basically have a world-wide communist state... people waiting in lines for goods and services while the people who own the place live like kings... we all know communism will never work because the human being is inherently greedy.

This whole discussion is only propaganda for people who cannot tolerate religion and opposing viewpoints. That, in itself, is another aspect... or should I say error... of human nature.
Okay, but religion binds people to a close-minded opinion. If everyone has an open mind, then religion fails.

So, did god create man, or did man in fear of being alone create god?

Well I for one believe that religion prevents people from having more orgies and that sucks, generally speaking
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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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#42
I was missing what you said, I thought you meant dots, not feathers, but in any case.....I would be cool with that. They were here before we were, turn-about is fair play.
Sorry me, but I can't believe that...

When you'll see that this Indian will compete with you for everything you were enjoying for hundreds of years, I doubt you'll act as generous as you claim...
 

Ahmedios

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Nov 11, 2006
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Millions if not billions have died because of what religion taught them....

People died because they questioned the Catholic Church....
Muslims died because of Christians in the Crusades.....

So if the Catholics or Christians in general were more accepting at that time, and were not scared pussies of other religions, neither one of the prior events would have occured.
Again, I see that your first sentence is very misleading and absolutely inaccurate. In what basis do you say that millions if not billions have died because of their religion?

You say that people have died because of their religion, this means that there is something wrong with their religion, I mean the Bible (I stick here just the Bible because of the example that you've just mentioned). Do you think so? All the people who died in the Crusades and due to Catholic Church were just victims because of politics and the greed of some kingdoms and their vile ambitions to become bigger and greater. Kings used all the legal and illegal antics for their own sake and they legitimated laws to serve their own ambitions not to serve the religion that they believed in. They used the point of weakness of the vast majority of their own nations to persuade them that such deeds weren't related to them but it was all up to their religion.This had nothing to do with the Torah, Bible and Qur'an.
 

Ahmedios

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Nov 11, 2006
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Yea, seriously, i am an Athiest....

I'm not out shooting people or bombing anything.
I don't know if you think that you are some sort of a funny guy ao what?

But if you:

Firstly, like to be funny in a serious topic, So I think it is an unacceptable bad habit.

Secondly, talking seriously and you believe that only the atheist is one who doesn't bomb himself because he believes in nothing, and the believers, whoever they are, bomb themselves because they are some idiots, So I can say that you are truely pathetic.
 
Apr 12, 2004
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#53
Again, I see that your first sentence is very misleading and absolutely inaccurate. In what basis do you say that millions if not billions have died because of their religion?
OKAY SEE IF YOU CAN FOLLOW, IT IS A VERY BASIC PRINCIPLE!

The Christians killed hundreds of thousands during the Spanish Inquisition, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT FOLLOW THE CHURCH OR QUESTIONED IT!

The Christian Serbs killed thousands of Muslim Croats and Bosnians.

Million of Jews were killed because they were Jewish, they were killed because they were Jewish....

SHIITES AND SUNNIS KILL each other because of their differences with religion.....

Northern Ireland and Irish kill each other through terrorist tactics because they were disagreeing with each other's religion.

DO YOU GET MY POINT???
 
Apr 12, 2004
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#55
I don't know if you think that you are some sort of a funny guy ao what?

But if you:

Firstly, like to be funny in a serious topic, So I think it is an unacceptable bad habit.

Secondly, talking seriously and you believe that only the atheist is one who doesn't bomb himself because he believes in nothing, and the believers, whoever they are, bomb themselves because they are some idiots, So I can say that you are truely pathetic.
NO YOU GUY, YOU ARE MISSING MY POINT....

RELIGION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW PEOPLE ARE NATURALLY!

And o be honest, more people are bombing each other over religious differences than Athiests are, MAIN!
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,870
#59
And let me tell you that Muslims and Basque sapratists have been boming other people for decades....

WTF is your point?
My point is that you can't say that religion is the only reason for violence around the world...

And living without religions won't make it safer ever...

And let me remind you that you're living in the country that bombed the highest number of civilians in the history of the mankind without any fear of religion or anything else...
 
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