Nicolò Zaniolo - AM RC - Galatasaray (15 Viewers)

[Boksic]

Pogba or Zaniolo?

For Pogba signing an expensive injury prone player to replace our younger, less expensive and slightly less injury prone player doesn't seem a great move.

Zaniolo is potentially a very good player but a huge risk. I don't see him being available for any price that makes it worthwhile given his injuries and low attacking numbers.

 

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[JuveJay]

Zaniolo doesn't bring the goals a fit Dybala does, but it seems like that will now fall to Vlahovic anyway.

Vlahovic 20-25
Morata 10-12
Raspadori 10
Chiesa 8-10
Zaniolo 6-8
Locatelli, McKennie, Cuadrado 4-6

 

[il brutto]

Pogba or Zaniolo?

Pogba and it's not close. However if our recent dealings are anything to go by, we aren't likely to offer him the kind of wages that are required to sign him.

 

[IlCapitano]

Budget I guess. Both are expensive signings

Due to our financial situation, we probably can only get one of them. It will likely be Zaniolo + a CM or Pogba + a winger.

Maybe I am on a high because of the January window, but if we save on Dybala, Berna, MDS, Perin wages that is already more than enough to cover them both. Just Berna and Dybala honestly.

I really don't think they're related at all. I think Zaniolo would have been a target no matter what because he's a young, talented Italian, a Juventino at that and we want to build that core again.

I think Dybala and Pogba (or another expensive mid of that type) were related because of both the finances and tactical choices. Pogba doesn't really have place in a team playing with two mids only and Dybala and Chiesa cannot play together in a team with 3 mids.

This is what Agresti posted on VS forum just after the January window ended. We had no idea about Dybala leaving for sure then.

 

[Boksic]

Zaniolo doesn't bring the goals a fit Dybala does, but it seems like that will now fall to Vlahovic anyway.

Vlahovic 20-25
Morata 10-12
Raspadori 10
Chiesa 8-10
Zaniolo 6-8
Locatelli, McKennie, Cuadrado 4-6

I prefer a team being less reliant on one goalscorer, it makes you predictable and if they are off form/injured/well marked you have problems. Chiesa is an unknown next season and will likely need a year to get back. Morata is not reliable or consistent enough to bank on his goals.

We badly need a goal threat from midfield. We haven't had it since Khedira's peak with us and even then it was way less than what we had with Vidal.

 

[il brutto]

Zaniolo's skillset as a footballer is quite limited imo. His main attribute is running fast with the football at his feet, but he doesn't really have vision to create for others and quite often his end product is lacking. He often likes to go on these solo runs that end in him trying to score a Hollywood goal from range. If we are super intent on being a team that relies heavily on counter-attacks as our go to attacking tactic then perhaps he would suit that. He is very very raw though. I don't see him as the kind of ready made player, who could instantly come in and take a lot of the attacking responsibility on his shoulders. More like a nice little project with some very obvious strengths that needs refinement in other areas.

 

[IlCapitano]

Zaniolo's skillset as a footballer is quite limited imo. His main attribute is running fast with the football at his feet, but he doesn't really have vision to create for others and quite often his end product is lacking. He often likes to go on these solo runs that end in him trying to score a Hollywood goal from range. If we are super intent on being a team that relies heavily on counter-attacks as our go to attacking tactic then perhaps he would suit that. He is very very raw though. I don't see him as the kind of ready made player, who could instantly come in and take a lot of the attacking responsibility on his shoulders. More like a nice little project with some very obvious strengths that needs refinement in other areas.

I mean, that is literally Chiesa at Fiorentina you are describing.

I disagree about the skillset though. I have seen enough flashes of him dribbling in tight spaces, beautiful vision and passing to be quite confident about him there.

What I care most about is he has the same mentality and drive as Chiesa. He just goes and attacks no matter what and I will always take that over a more technically talented player.

 

[Mr Chocolate]

Obviously the big ACL time outs excluded, is Zaniolo injury prone in terms of niggles and games missed like dybala has been recently ?

 

[il brutto]

I mean, that is literally Chiesa at Fiorentina you are describing.

I disagree about the skillset though. I have seen enough flashes of him dribbling in tight spaces, beautiful vision and passing to be quite confident about him there.

What I care most about is he has the same mentality and drive as Chiesa. He just goes and attacks no matter what and I will always take that over a more technically talented player.

Well he is similar to Chiesa in the sense that they are both very strong when running with the ball. That is pretty much where the similarities end though. Chiesa was more of a finished article when we signed him, I was absolutely certain that he would come in and have an immediate impact here.

I think you need a good mix of abilities. Having the Vlahovic, Chiesa and Zaniolo trio might be a bit too many somewhat selfish players in the line-up at the same time. Selfless players like Cuadrado, who are happy to create chances for the rest, are also important.

I do like Zaniolo but just not sure he is currently quite as good as many people on here seem to think.

 

[Post Ironic]

Well he is similar to Chiesa in the sense that they are both very strong when running with the ball. That is pretty much where the similarities end though. Chiesa was more of a finished article when we signed him, I was absolutely certain that he would come in and have an immediate impact here.

I think you need a good mix of abilities. Having the Vlahovic, Chiesa and Zaniolo trio might be a bit too many somewhat selfish players in the line-up at the same time. Selfless players like Cuadrado, who are happy to create chances for the rest, are also important.

I do like Zaniolo but just not sure he is currently quite as good as many people on here seem to think.

You think so? Chiesa had 4 goals - 4 assists when injured this year. And 15 goals - 11 assists last year. Seems like he’s happy to create chances? Zaniolo, while not so balanced in previous years, has 4 goals - 8 assists this year…

 

[Mark]

f*ck Zaniolo

 

[duranfj]

With little b***** whining voice: "Oh I hate Paulo, too much injuries, bring me Zaniolo who is a worst player, completely unproven and more injury prone"

Where is Putin when you need him? Gulag for these guys

 

[Bianconero81]

Who the fuck do you guys want then? Rusty Doris or that shitcunt Retardi? Please give me names.

 

[Robee]

It was Paratici that tried to offload Dybala, unlike the current management

Tried and failed. Directly responsible for this mess by handing Dybi and his agent too much bargaining power.

 

[X Æ A-12]

No, Dybala

Bernadeschi is prized trash

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It was Paratici that tried to offload Dybala, unlike the current management, they kept changing their terms, delay tactics and suddenly we've shot ourselves in the foot, we look pathetic in all this, frankly incompetent and clueless.

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signing both pogba and zaniolo would be a travesty. Massive no to both from me

sorry but the Dybala situation is another stain on Tici. He let it get down to a 2 year contract but then didn't sell or renew Dybala. Current management inherited Dybala at 12 months until expiration with basically no leverage to negotiate.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

the purchase of Bernardeschi was much more understandable than the desire to buy this Roman wood

 

[s4tch]

Zaniolo doesn't bring the goals a fit Dybala does, but it seems like that will now fall to Vlahovic anyway.

Vlahovic 20-25
Morata 10-12
Raspadori 10
Chiesa 8-10
Zaniolo 6-8
Locatelli, McKennie, Cuadrado 4-6

locatelli scores every time he enters the box. that's a too good opportunity not to be exploited, a potential 40 goal player there @MikeM

btw hamed traoré would still be on my shopping list for the summer

 

[Gigiventus]

Obviously the big ACL time outs excluded, is Zaniolo injury prone in terms of niggles and games missed like dybala has been recently ?

Basically no injuries besides the acl related ones. He missed 3 matches at separate points this season. No matches missed before the first or between acl tears iirc.

 

[il brutto]

You think so? Chiesa had 4 goals - 4 assists when injured this year. And 15 goals - 11 assists last year. Seems like he’s happy to create chances? Zaniolo, while not so balanced in previous years, has 4 goals - 8 assists this year…

Perhaps "selfish" makes it sound a bit too harsh. What I meant is that they are players that often prefer to solve things on their own instead of combining with their teammates.

 

[maxi]

Who the fuck do you guys want then? Rusty Doris or that shitcunt Retardi? Please give me names.

Moussa Diaby from Leverkusen. Plays left wing. 16 goals 9 assists this season. Very fast player.