Nicolò Fagioli (80 Viewers)
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Im reading Allegri’s book, and already in the fourth chapter he talks about Fagioli.
The chapter is about his rule that he doesn’t want ‘headless chickens’ on the field. He talks about individual freedom on the field, that you shouldn’t make clones out of footballers and that you always have to give impulses at the creative side of the players.
I’ll try to literally translate the part about Fagioli:
“When you talk about sport, I often hear the term teamsport, but if four out of the ten players give bad passes, because nobody learned how to do it differently, everyone would be angry with the manager and say it’s his mistake. That why we should train individual technique and individual tactics. When we teach kids the basic principles, how to think for themself and how to play separately, it easier to fit them in a team. Therefore, why lock them in certain schedules. Usually I don’t say names, but in this case I will. Boys like Fagioli and some other of the Juventus Primavera and U23 already have a good foundation and understand the game. It would be contraproductieve to limit them with certain schedules and patterns.”
The chapter is about his rule that he doesn’t want ‘headless chickens’ on the field. He talks about individual freedom on the field, that you shouldn’t make clones out of footballers and that you always have to give impulses at the creative side of the players.
I’ll try to literally translate the part about Fagioli:
“When you talk about sport, I often hear the term teamsport, but if four out of the ten players give bad passes, because nobody learned how to do it differently, everyone would be angry with the manager and say it’s his mistake. That why we should train individual technique and individual tactics. When we teach kids the basic principles, how to think for themself and how to play separately, it easier to fit them in a team. Therefore, why lock them in certain schedules. Usually I don’t say names, but in this case I will. Boys like Fagioli and some other of the Juventus Primavera and U23 already have a good foundation and understand the game. It would be contraproductieve to limit them with certain schedules and patterns.”
remember in the beginning of the season when he would give starts to younger players like Frabotta and even Portanova? I think as the season went on and the pressure to win mounted he got gun shy, picked his 10-12 man rotation, and just stuck with it no matter the results. Essentially he was a pussy. Correia should’ve benched Berna as well.
Exactly what most coaches would have done tbh. He tried it when there was less pressure, time to catch up, that didn't materialise, so he went with experienced players.
Fagioli could have played more but ideas of our U23 players being used a lot when the team was struggling to make the CL are just fantasy.
He didn't use 10-12 players either, it was 21 players with basically every fixture a different lineup, plus a very sporadic use of kids. Juve have a big squad of international players so it's not a big surprise.
Fagioli could have played more but ideas of our U23 players being used a lot when the team was struggling to make the CL are just fantasy.
He didn't use 10-12 players either, it was 21 players with basically every fixture a different lineup, plus a very sporadic use of kids. Juve have a big squad of international players so it's not a big surprise.
If we developed the same youth players of other teams or paid enough for them we would play them too. Like we have done with De Ligt or Kulusevski. It's easier to bench a kid than someone you paid €40m+ for or who has 30 international caps. It also depends on what is available to a coach. Those players played more because of injuries for us. Klopp used more this season simply because he had to, same as Lampard last season, etc.
Having said that, Italy doesn't seem to be a league where they randomly throw as many young players in at big teams. But there are tactical reasons for this. All young players can play off their natural skill or athleticism, but only really good ones can understand systems quickly. For example take what an experienced international like Rabiot says about the league. That's not saying the league is better than others, it's just the culture.
Having said that, Italy doesn't seem to be a league where they randomly throw as many young players in at big teams. But there are tactical reasons for this. All young players can play off their natural skill or athleticism, but only really good ones can understand systems quickly. For example take what an experienced international like Rabiot says about the league. That's not saying the league is better than others, it's just the culture.
It’s a cultural thing indeed. And if there’s one thing hard to change, its the way of thinking in a club or perhaps country in this case.
Still tho I think that big clubs in Italy are forced to change this. Financial advantages are to big, competing with sheiks and no more Berlusconi or Moratti who spent with their eyes closed.
Its difficult matter.
Still tho I think that big clubs in Italy are forced to change this. Financial advantages are to big, competing with sheiks and no more Berlusconi or Moratti who spent with their eyes closed.
Its difficult matter.
