snoop said:
what happened to Mr.Nice guy "Amico Mio" ,you couldn't act the "nice guy" anymore ? 
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I knew it, He was faking it
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I have come to believe that it doesn't make one grain of difference who it is. Sure the Bush family seems like an exceptional bunch of corrupt crooks, but I bet even without such elaborate connections former administrations were just as corrupt. The foreign policy is the same, the only difference may be the domestic issues that the Democrats fuck up less.
mikhail said:
I don't think it's fair to compair the foreign policy of the Clinton administration to that of the Bush one. The degree of aggression, the efforts to justify it to the public and the erosion of civil liberties...
Youre mostly correct about American politicians. No matter what side they are on its the dirtiest ones who have the most money that come out on top. All the US populous is today is a mass of unknowledgable or apathetic sheep that are led around by chamagne promises and caviar dreams. Many base their electorial decisions on dumb reasons like who says hates gays most or who wants to kill more arabs. (a little extreme but you see my point) In truth the American president is always one of the most corrupt SOBs in the world. Right now its George Bush, but weve had 43? of these fuckers. Ill use Bush as an example. If you look at the last couple of elections, Bush has not been the nice, family man he claims to be. For example a man who spent most of his National Guard duty during Vietnam on "leave" calls two highly decorated Veterens McCaine and Kerry commiters of atrocities and not the heros they are. And quite frankly it worked. Both Kerry and McCaine were too wimpy to fire back that at least they were there and it cost both the Presidency. Bottom line, here in America nice guys finish last and good men get left out. Here's to finally retaining Jerusalem.int:
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1. No sale you bleeding heart Liberal...I believe you have become a changed man since moving to hicksville, USA and playing soccer, following Juve, shitting in a coffee can and flapping/fapping (whatever you bunch in here do) in shoes are hobbies you practice to feel less WASP-ISH and more 'back home' or Italian-ish...
Once your membership is accepted by the Country Club do we have to refer to you as Padovano, Esq? or is Sir Padovano more appropriate?!
2. biatch, you would get lost in the subway washroom
Once your membership is accepted by the Country Club do we have to refer to you as Padovano, Esq? or is Sir Padovano more appropriate?!
2. biatch, you would get lost in the subway washroom
Enron said:
Youre mostly correct about American politicians. No matter what side they are on its the dirtiest ones who have the most money that come out on top. All the US populous is today is a mass of unknowledgable or apathetic sheep that are led around by chamagne promises and caviar dreams. Many base their electorial decisions on dumb reasons like who says hates gays most or who wants to kill more arabs. (a little extreme but you see my point) In truth the American president is always one of the most corrupt SOBs in the world. Right now its George Bush, but weve had 43? of these fuckers. Ill use Bush as an example. If you look at the last couple of elections, Bush has not been the nice, family man he claims to be. For example a man who spent most of his National Guard duty during Vietnam on "leave" calls two highly decorated Veterens McCaine and Kerry commiters of atrocities and not the heros they are. And quite frankly it worked. Both Kerry and McCaine were too wimpy to fire back that at least they were there and it cost both the Presidency. Bottom line, here in America nice guys finish last and good men get left out. Here's to finally retaining Jerusalem.int:
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Recently I heard a theory that the rampant corruption in the US government and corporate structure is actually what makes America great. Apparently, the drive to out-lie, out-cheat, and out-steal; keeps America ahead of foolishly noble countries and corporations. Or at least being the most corrupt garuntees them the most unfair benefits. Add to that the collusion between top corporations and the government, and you get a very powerful and effective exploitation mechanism.
Ill agree my assessment of the US was a bit harsh. But it is the harshest criticism that bring about the greatest change. I know that not all Americans are uninformed, unintelligent, and uneducated. I also agree that every once in a while a good man makes it to the top. But in recent times it hasnt been that way. The problem is not with the American electoral system but lies in those who manipulate it. I believe I was correct in the apathy of the country. The US is a land where every citizen has the right to vote. Yet less than 30 percent of Americans vote in every election. What you said about cheating is also correct. Those who cheat and go unpunished gain the upper hand over those who dont cheat.
How can the electoral system not be flawed, if there are people who control it. The fact that Democrats and Republicans on the state level are able to use the electoral system to their advantage, is foolish to say the least. Furthermore, the "first-past-the-post", "Single-member District" elections for the legislature are highly undemocratic, giving some people in the country less vote potency than others. It also makes it very easy for the two party system to keep power. What they need is proportional representation in the legislature. That would allow for greater diversity of political expression. What devistates me about America is that they all claim to have the "Best Democracy" in the world, but most Americans have absolutely no say in what their government does.
Greg, did you even watch the Juve-Roma match? Dude, it was complete domination by Juve and I still can't figure out how Roma got to 3-0. Roma converted their 3 chances while Juve wasted their first 86 chances. It was one-way traffic most of the match, and if we play the same way today then we will pass the round. Let us hope.
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easy to get caught up in the anti-American rants that seem to be the 'in' thing nowadays...however, for those idealists who think that Europe offer greater examples of democracy I suggest you look at the 'brass facts' and beyond the rosy visions of the land mass across the Atlantic...
Nowhere is politics more of an 'inner circle' and old boys club than in England where even the middle class can forget having their voices heard by an M.P. Plus, the way in which the constituencies are split up are a joke...some M.P.'s in Ministerial positions represent areas so densly populated that it is an uphill battle just finding people to vote period.
France? Of course, how can we not look envious upon a nation where someone like Jean Marie LePen has official party status and is given government funding for every vote he receives thereby enlargening his ability to recruit the most racist and subhumans creeping out there.
Italy?? If you don’t mind your government falling every other year where one party with 3 seats basically controls the majority with over 80 seats…parties are at the beck and call of the minorities made up of extreme right or left wing politicians.. a wonder things never get done??
The Nordic nations? The Holland’s or Belgium’s of the world?? Come on…” Easy to ‘manage’ when the store is empty…”
Nowhere is politics more of an 'inner circle' and old boys club than in England where even the middle class can forget having their voices heard by an M.P. Plus, the way in which the constituencies are split up are a joke...some M.P.'s in Ministerial positions represent areas so densly populated that it is an uphill battle just finding people to vote period.
France? Of course, how can we not look envious upon a nation where someone like Jean Marie LePen has official party status and is given government funding for every vote he receives thereby enlargening his ability to recruit the most racist and subhumans creeping out there.
Italy?? If you don’t mind your government falling every other year where one party with 3 seats basically controls the majority with over 80 seats…parties are at the beck and call of the minorities made up of extreme right or left wing politicians.. a wonder things never get done??
The Nordic nations? The Holland’s or Belgium’s of the world?? Come on…” Easy to ‘manage’ when the store is empty…”
What I find particularly ironic is that there are clear parallels between the campaign politics of Bush '04 in the U.S. and the recent rise of Hamas to political prominance in Palestine. Both weighed their campaigns heavily not so much upon domestic policy as much as identifying a common external enemy to blame for all the nation's troubles. Both promised better ways of life for individual families based on their handling relative to these external enemies. Both championed the politics of fear.
But just as you'll never get Andy and Seven to admit how similar they are, you'll never get Hamas nor the Bush campaigners to recognize that they both can attribute their current political powers to similar electoral tactics with the voting public.
Reading the papers, and hearing about how the U.S. administration is up in arms over the rise of Hamas, I can't help but feel I am on the inside of a joke that they don't get ... and don't even realize that the joke involves them and an 'enemy' who played from pages torn right out of their playbook.
But just as you'll never get Andy and Seven to admit how similar they are, you'll never get Hamas nor the Bush campaigners to recognize that they both can attribute their current political powers to similar electoral tactics with the voting public.
Reading the papers, and hearing about how the U.S. administration is up in arms over the rise of Hamas, I can't help but feel I am on the inside of a joke that they don't get ... and don't even realize that the joke involves them and an 'enemy' who played from pages torn right out of their playbook.