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IncuboRossonero

IncuboRossonero

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    Geof said:
    That is called democracy Nick. Political parties are given financial help by the state, as you say it, by the number of votes they get. And people are free to choose who they vote for.
    Once you start to say that one particular party doesn't deserve it's aid, you're neglecting the people's choice, and thus neglect democracy.
    I am not saying I don't think every citizen or viewpoint should get their fair shot at having their voice heard..what I am saying is that racist and ignorant platforms should not be given latitude and a helping hand at getting supporters...Why does Canada not have this racist platform parties in the limelight? Are the citizens of Canada that much smarter than their conquerors??





    Geof said:
    Oh please... You clearly have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about. Have you ever heared the name of Pim Fortuyn, or Theo Van Gogh? Filip De Winter?

    You're only contributing with the image of americans that goes around here in Europe... ignorant imperialists.
    YOu missed my point..plus you are highlighting individuals that have nothing to dispell my theory. Leading a nation that is not even part of the G8 and that is not a world leader is quite different than that of a powerful nation....it is not ignorance but reality: Switzerland has quite a health care plan but they do not have to deal with the same amount of citizens and problems as England or Canada.
     
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    IncuboRossonero

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    Ian said:
    Well, who really gives a shit about how big the country is? If the US is too big to have the kind of democracy that they preach, then they should break it up or stop shoving their shit down everyone else's throats...
    I forgot to add the word TRUST ..too much TRUST ... so I could be wrong but I don't think your argument hits my post. The U.S. does have issues to deal with such as low voter turnout and the vast power accorded to the President however, to say the system is undemocratic (which I don't think you said but others have implied) is quite simply a load of horsesh*t.
    Further more, when comparing ourselves to Iraq and Cuba we have every damn right to flaunt our democracy.
     
    Jul 12, 2002
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    IncuboRossonero said:
    I forgot to add the word TRUST ..too much TRUST ... so I could be wrong but I don't think your argument hits my post. The U.S. does have issues to deal with such as low voter turnout and the vast power accorded to the President however, to say the system is undemocratic (which I don't think you said but others have implied) is quite simply a load of horsesh*t.
    Further more, when comparing ourselves to Iraq and Cuba we have every damn right to flaunt our democracy.
    Sure, America is a lot more demcratic than Cuba or the former Iraq, but that's no feat. My point is merely that Americans claim to have the best and most democratic government in the world, and that's very far from the truth.
     
    Jul 12, 2002
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    IncuboRossonero said:
    I am not saying I don't think every citizen or viewpoint should get their fair shot at having their voice heard..what I am saying is that racist and ignorant platforms should not be given latitude and a helping hand at getting supporters...Why does Canada not have this racist platform parties in the limelight? Are the citizens of Canada that much smarter than their conquerors??
    Canada doesn't have reactionary nationalists parties like France, because Canada doesn't have a significant percentage of racial minorities.
     
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    IncuboRossonero

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    Ian said:
    Canada doesn't have reactionary nationalists parties like France, because Canada doesn't have a significant percentage of racial minorities.
    WHAT????

    The majority of new immigrants in Canada are from Haiti (Quebec), Jamaica, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and the Middle East...Being a bilingual nation they get individuals from Algeria, Morocco and Haiti who move into the French areas and Jamaica's, Sri Lankans and other Middle Eastern individuals who move into ONtario....nevermind Vancouver which is practically owned by Asians....

    did you think Canada is made up of English and French from the time of Wolfe and Montcalm????
     
    Jul 12, 2002
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    IncuboRossonero said:
    WHAT????

    The majority of new immigrants in Canada are from Haiti (Quebec), Jamaica, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and the Middle East...Being a bilingual nation they get individuals from Algeria, Morocco and Haiti who move into the French areas and Jamaica's, Sri Lankans and other Middle Eastern individuals who move into ONtario....nevermind Vancouver which is practically owned by Asians....

    did you think Canada is made up of English and French from the time of Wolfe and Montcalm????
    Of course not. Canada has a plurality of French Canadians, but there are a lot and they stick together. And Canada has not had as many non-Anglo immigrants, nor for as long as France. Besides, Canada has a relatively low population for it's natural resources. That kind of wealth makes everything easier.
     

    Vinman

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    IncuboRossonero said:
    WHAT????

    The majority of new immigrants in Canada are from Haiti (Quebec), Jamaica, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and the Middle East...Being a bilingual nation they get individuals from Algeria, Morocco and Haiti who move into the French areas and Jamaica's, Sri Lankans and other Middle Eastern individuals who move into ONtario....nevermind Vancouver which is practically owned by Asians....

    did you think Canada is made up of English and French from the time of Wolfe and Montcalm????
    gotta agree with Nicola here..

    Ontario , specifically the Toronto area, has many immigrants of many Middle Eastern and Western Asian countries
     
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    IncuboRossonero

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    Ian said:
    Of course not. Canada has a plurality of French Canadians, but there are a lot and they stick together. And Canada has not had as many non-Anglo immigrants, nor for as long as France. Besides, Canada has a relatively low population for it's natural resources. That kind of wealth makes everything easier.
    Wrong. If you look at numbers obviously because France has a larger population but on a per capita basis Canada has more visible minorities and more a much more vast variety of immigrants than France...Quebec opens its doors to Francophone speaking nations creating an influx of Haitains, Moroccans and Algerians in the 80's/90's and because of its low population they have opened their doors to Sri Lankans, Indians, Pakistani and Arabs. Difference between France and Canada is that Canada doesn't give the radical extremist parties the time of day and do not encourage LePen type platforms...
    By the way, 'wealth' a big word for provinces like Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, New Brunswick and Manitoba which are and have been in a struggling state.
     

    Zé Tahir

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    Vinman said:
    gotta agree with Nicola here..

    Ontario , specifically the Toronto area, has many immigrants of many Middle Eastern and Western Asian countries
    and during the euro '04, I found out they also have a large population of Greeks and Portuguese.
     
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    Ian said:
    Of course not. Canada has a plurality of French Canadians, but there are a lot and they stick together. And Canada has not had as many non-Anglo immigrants, nor for as long as France. Besides, Canada has a relatively low population for it's natural resources. That kind of wealth makes everything easier.

    buddy in 15-20 years they say that the vissible minorities here will be the white english speakers
     

    Vinman

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    Zé Tahir said:
    and during the euro '04, I found out they also have a large population of Greeks and Portuguese.
    thats funny you say that...

    during the final, I was up in Toronto visiting my in-laws

    I was watching the game, and asked my mother-in -law who she wanted to win (my inlaws are soccer fans, fav team is......Brazil ??!!:disagree: ), and she said Greece. I was puzzled and asked why, and she said that all around the neighborhood are Portuguese, and if they win, they'll be celebrating all night, and she has to work early in the morning, and wont get any sleep !!

    needless to say, it was a quiet night in the 'hood !!!:D
     

    swag

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    Vinman said:
    thats funny you say that...

    during the final, I was up in Toronto visiting my in-laws

    I was watching the game, and asked my mother-in -law who she wanted to win (my inlaws are soccer fans, fav team is......Brazil ??!!:disagree: ), and she said Greece. I was puzzled and asked why, and she said that all around the neighborhood are Portuguese, and if they win, they'll be celebrating all night, and she has to work early in the morning, and wont get any sleep !!

    needless to say, it was q quiet night in the 'hood !!!:D
    The funny thing about Portuguese (and my own wife's family is pretty hardcore) is that they tend to root for Brazil and Portugal. Which makes really no sense to me other than the language thing -- and even at that Brazilians and continental Portuguese don't really understand each other all that well.

    Well, that and Portugal has won SQUAT on the world stage. ;)
     

    Zlatan

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    AlexIlGrande said:
    Well, this just might be my last post for real. What the hell did I get banned for again anyway? For saying I THINK Cronios fvcked his mother in the ass? Perhaps you should have read the CONTEXT, Mikhail. Perhaps you should have realised I disproved a theory in a funny way. Perhaps you should have realised that I was actually PROVING that that theory could be used as an insult. So banning me for that is absolutely ridiculous. My ban was totally out of line and it sickens me. I've been unbanned for what, 10 days? I didn't even make it till february FFS. My problem? Not at all, this ban was predetermined. You read my post, read ass, read Seven, and thought, oh here's an easy victim. Well fvck you, Mikhail, you completely misjudged the situation. You can't ban every guy who disproves a ridiculous theory, now can you?

    @Zlatan: I can't understand you're still a mod. Have people actually read what you wrote towards me? That can't be acceptable. I even think Fli has it in his sig. I'm utterly disgusted with you. You're no more than a wannabe dictator (on an internet forum FFS).

    @Tifoso Lou: Thank you for being the first one to piss on my grave yet again. In those ten days that I was unbanned I didn't have ONE discussion with you. Yet when I'm banned you're the first one to say I "deserved" it. You truly are a catholic: you're hypocritical, you like little children, you gossip away and no one can question your beliefs or is called "out of line and disgraceful". You're simply put an idiot. And to make it even more funny, if your God truly existed, he would despise you. Catholics have destroyed what christian faith is about. It surprises me you're not a member of a sect though. Kudos to you. I hope you soon get killed.

    @Vinman: Do you ever do anything other than whine? "You can't do this, you can't say that", "show some RESPECT, MAN", "This is what I BELIEVE", God, Vinman, you never seem to make sense. All you do is write in capital letters, really and act as if that's an argument. Do you even know what RESPECT stands for? Respect doesn't mean I can't "touch" your opinions. Respect doesn't mean I can't question your faith. Most people crossed from muthos to logos 2500 years ago. It's a pity you're not there yet. You're an idiot as well and for that a very bad cop.

    @Marty: Well, you pretty much fvcked the place up, unless you're going to change your mod squad. Had you actually been reading some of the stuff that goes on here you would have known Zlatan was incompetent for the job, but hey.

    @Fli: Happy birthday.

    @Jeeks: I kind of liked you.

    @Tom: you're one of the more reasonable guys on the forum. You should have been a mod.

    @Erik: I suggest you don't hit on Zlatan, because in the end he'll beat you.

    @Azzurri7: Amazingly enough you have been banned as well. Shows you how wrong they can get. You've been getting a shitload of insults the last few days, yet no one did something about it. I salute you for always sticking up for Del Piero.

    @Dan: Good luck with your girl. You're the smartest guy on this forum, but let's not get too cocky. Arrogance is cool, Hubris isn't.

    @Everyone else: well, I hope you enjoy yourselves, but this place has seriously deteriorated. The mods aren't even following their own rules anymore. Proving someone wrong in an argument is enough to get banned. It looks like we're back in the Middle Ages. "He's a witch I tell ya".

    If I want to return, I'm sure I'm able to. There is more than one way to get by that IP ban. But for the time being, I'll let you off the hook.


    Cry to someone who cares.
     

    Azzurri7

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    AlexIlGrande said:
    @Azzurri7: Amazingly enough you have been banned as well. Shows you how wrong they can get. You've been getting a shitload of insults the last few days, yet no one did something about it. I salute you for always sticking up for Del Piero.
    Seven, you do know you're one of my fav members..too bad we're always the wrong. Just like what happened with me few days ago.

    Other than that, wish ya good luck with your football career. You'll be missed around here.


    Take care of yourself.
     

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